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Growing Smart:
Techniques for Achieving Economical, Sound Development |
LAND USE
WORKSHOP #2 - AGENDA>
Saturday, January
10, 1998 (8:30 - 11:30 a.m.)
Dane County Expo
Center, 1919 Expo Way
Moderator - Gene Skaar,
Town of Cottage Grove Chairman
8:30 Registration - Coffee, Rolls, View Displays
9:00 Welcome
- Kathleen Falk, Dane County Executive
9:05 Panel
Presentation: What "Smart Growth" Means
(Moderated by Kristine Euclide, County Executive Assistant)
Panelists:
Don Hovde, President, Hovde Realty, Inc.
Dave Cieslewicz, Executive Director, 1000 Friends of Wisconsin
9:25 Describe
Breakout Options - Russell Consulting
9:35 Attend the Breakout Session of Your Choice
11:10 Reconvene
- Brief Reports on Breakout Sessions
Reporters:
- The Economics of Land Development - Tony Brewster, Attorney, Nieder and Boucher
- Promoting Smart Growth - Darlene Arneson, President, Dane County Farm Bureau
- Mapping Dane County's Future - Brett Hulsey, Director, Midwest Sierra Club
11:25 Closing Remarks - Kathleen Falk, Dane County Executive
Next Workshop ...
Tuesday, February 10, 1998 (6:30-9:00 p.m.), Expo
Center: "Making Great Communities Better: Techniques to Strengthen and Preserve Dane
County Communities"
Your feedback is welcome! E-mail: plan.dev@co.dane.wi.us
County Executive's Office: (608) 266-4114
Web Site: http://www.co.dane.wi.us
Concurrent Work
Areas
A) Mapping Dane County's Future --
Participatory Mapping Exercise -- You
decide how to add 85,000 people to Dane County through the year 2020 and preserve
significant environmental resources and productive farmland
What specific action steps should be
taken by the County to accomplish this proposed growth pattern?
B) The Economics of Land Development
--
All development has some impact on the
community. For example, development may increase demands for public services and
facilities (police, fire, schools, roads, parks, general government services, etc.) and
may affect natural resources (surface water runoff, loss of farmland and woodlands, etc.).
What Do You Think --
Should the fiscal impact of development
decisions be analyzed?
How should these impacts be analyzed?
How should these costs of development be
paid?
If you were County Executive, what specific
things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth?
C) Promoting "Smart
Growth"
For purposes of this discussion, "Smart
Growth" means growth that preserves significant farmland and environmental resources,
and prevents our communities from growing into one another and promotes efficient delivery
of services and infrastructure.
What Do You Think --
Should
incentives/disincentives be used as a tool for "smart growth"?
What are the special issues facing
urbanizing towns?
What can be done to respond to these
issues?
If a different approach should be
used for urbanizing towns, what specifically should it be?
What specific things should the
County Executive do to promote smart growth in Dane County?
DANE GROWING STRONG
Land Use Workshop #
2
Growing Smart:
Techniques for Achieving Economical, Sound Development
Saturday, January
10, 1998 |
Transcript of Ideas Generated by
Participants
a) Mapping
Dane Countys Future
Individual "Action Steps for
Achieving Smart Growth Patterns" Worksheets
Specific actions that should be taken by county
government or others to achieve the desired growth pattern in Dane County include;
Table 1:
- 1) low income housing interspersed with mid income
housing to avoid "bad neighborhood"
- 2) halt all development on and especially near wetlands with
buffer zones
- 3) development of rail corridors to high density and
moderate density areas
- 4) continue to buffer high and mid. populations with green
spaces and multi-use corridors
- 5) use poor farmland for development of lower density
populations
- 6) increase high density to mid density in wealth areas
- 7) less high density on Isthmus area to preserve old
neighborhood feeling
- 1) encourage high density along rail corridors. This could
be done by zoning or tax incentives
- 2) mixed developments that encourage walking and discourage
car trips
- 3) establish green ways where development would not be
allowed. These greenways should allow for free movement of animals
- 4) as a means of maintaining a good quality of life in high
density areas, green space should be maintained near these areas
- 5) high density development should be encouraged within
urban or city limits wherever possible
- 6) the county should create a mechanism to purchase
development rights. ex. Town of Dunn
- 7) In areas where open space is to be preserved, establish
dwelling limitation by only allowing 1 dwelling per 40 acres
- Wetlands before establishing infiltration
- detention ponds to accommodate new beside development
immediately next to natural
- wetlands, research the effects (negative / positive)
- groundwater sustaining the natural wetland which may be
adversely affected by devel., pollutants
- before developing plan govt for any area near natural
resources to recharge
- infiltration areas that support natural resources,
especially springs which primarily rely on ground water supplies -allow for special
flexibility of regulations such as 12% restrictions for development and adjust these to
local resources
- define outer periphery of urban service area
- make a plan to adhere to development patterns within the new
urban service area -outline for next 20 years
- incorporate the better provisions and experiences this
approach has produced in Portland, Oregon
- concentrate population at a) near rail corridors; b)
existing transportation routes
- failures in high density offset by usable rec. and natural
areas -in the immediate vicinity
- seriously consider the advantages of the development rights
plan of the Town of Dunn in areas outside the metropolitan area
- guard such fragile natural resources as Black Earth Creek
and country areas and REFRAIN from developing these areas
- 1) consider all implementation tools for protecting the best
farmlands
- 2) consider all implementation tools for protecting
environmental corridors
- 3) visualize what different densities look like / 3D models
/ sketches
- 4) bike trails in rail row
- support commuter rail - consider integrated utilities and
fiber optic network in such rail corridors
- add the rail corridor to Fitchburg and Oregon to rail study
list -major growth proposed here - close to downtown
- visualize what a linear 3D development might look like along
rail corridor
- its important that we focus on rail transportation
development within Madison city limits
- extending rail service beyond city only after rural land use
in place
- consider buffer next to environmental corridor
- ordinance, legislation, tax concepts, etc. to control storm
water runoff
- 1) control zoning changes in the fragile undeveloped zones
between rapidly growing communities; must be in hands of agency responsible for big
picture of smart growth; County Planning Agency
- 2) subsidize more intensive bus routes (shorter headspace)
inside municipalities to inhibit auto commuting and expansion of downtown parking -
redesign bus routes to feed rail depots as rail develops
- 3) make urban type land use changes illegal outside
designated urban growth zones this will take state legislative authority
- 4) accelerate designation of rail routes and rail depot
locations
Table 2:
- ensure that rural lots are targeted for areas that are
conducive to septic systems (conventional or alternative)
- target development for areas that will have utilities in a
reasonable proximity
- create buffer zones between rural / suburban / urban
communities (even Sun Prairie)
- put large rural lots in communities that dont have
existing infrastructure to handle large population growth such as Bellville and Dane
- create incentives for preservation of farmland, fair taxes,
etc.
- encourage growth along existing major corridors for travel,
highway, rail
- if a development over 25 dwellings is created within 5 miles
of a sewer, it must be extended to create less septics
- encourage mixed residential uses (housing types and
commercial)
- urban infill
- control runoff ( more and larger detention ponds)
- penalize irresponsible development
- moratorium of any building on grade / soil
- allow new sewering technology to be used in non municipal
service areas so small clustering can exist
- stop annexation around Madison, make Madison better, not
bigger
- create better traffic patterns in city
- use existing transportation corridors in rural areas
- growth to scattered with that growth in the most visually
desirable part of Dane Co. the character will inevitably change
- county must develop fund to buy development rights
- encourage rich to purchase entire farms to preserve houses,
barns, and land
- land use planning must have stronger regional control
- shoot all developers
- urban infill
- mixed residential uses
- agree with general placement, focusing on developing along
already - existing development and resources
- urban infill
- be certain to bring commercial and industrial populations
along with people encourage local shopping and employment to reduce transportation and
other infrastructure problems
- identify who is coming and where they want to live (I
believe that they are primarily urban people, satisfied with living in urban areas
- leave farmland and natural areas as undeveloped as possible
- cluster and fill, dont sprawl
- unified county transportation plan should help govern where
development occurs (on existing corridors, near already developed ones)
- factor all development costs into actual development costs
- tax credits for businesses that encourage biking or mass
transit to work
Table 4:
eliminate 1 dwelling per 35 acres
make possible farmers to sell for high density development
and join the neighbors in doing so
do resource based elimination of valued ag and natural
resources from development - do incentives / disincentives to achieve this
use mixture of incentives and disincentives
provide technical assistance to individualize consequences
of alternative growth patterns
provide assistance to local governments to understand and
visualize site specific consequences of everyday decisions
inventory of how land could be used (land for potential)
- do away with 1 for 35 policy
- make decisions based on reality marketplace
- pay heed to needs of landowners (farmers)
- make land use options for all desires of society within
certain guidelines i.e. pro choice of living place and style
- make county planning agency consider all aspects of planning
i.e. economic, corporate, rather than just arbitrary land use planning
- do away with duplication of planning services and make them
more accountable to public
- inventory land for its use potential and use capability
- new rational analysis of how land is used now or could be
used now
- better summary of objective data on current public services
as per knowledgeable realtors existing and projected needs for sewers, roads, etc.
- 1) change the 35 acre min. for rural lots
- 2) take advantages of the sewer line already in place
- 3) understand why people want to live where they do
- 4) understand "the market" of land use
- 5) establish a fair balance in all committee i.e. rural /
urban
- 6) get away from Madison directing the rest of Dane County
- 7) the process of developing is to political
- 8) local control
- 9) to many staff people with a hidden agenda
- 10) development is not a bad word
- allow reasonable choice in selection of where to live -
keeping natural resources protections in mind and encourage economic development but tell
them ...
- let people know well in advance of development what is
planned, type of activity, etc.
- county government shouldnt tell local towns what their
land use plans should be
- dont put a development cloud over land in rural area
by zoning that prohibits reasonable choice
- have transportation plans that fit land use and put in place
so that development can follow
- have more balanced participation on county committee more
residents representing other thoughts
- limit use of city extra territorial contract over towns -
put in county wide scope
- tell people on why certain objectives are desirable -
dont force them
Table 6:
1) increase desirability of families living in urban
areas close to their jobs - this could include activity programs for children after
school, weekends, summers
2) improve mass transit between urban areas and keep the
cost low - the commuter bus probably more economically viable than light rail
3) impose a wheel tax based on distance from job to work.
use wheel revenues to subsidy mass transit
4) provide incentives to people to become owner - occupants
of small 2-4- unit multi-family housing. owner occupied units are better able to maintain
their properties and control the quality of the rental population, thereby maintaining
community. more owner occupied units would allow more efficient land use and higher
density without sacrificing community
5) implement public information campaign to inform the
public of the true costs of scattered urban development and the decline in quality of life
i.e. parents have to transport their kids to everything, nothing for kids to do, no
library within walking distance for example
6) continue to implement the ag use property tax assessment
laws, but make accommodations to preserve small size specialty base i.e. community
supported ag, green houses in near- urban fringe areas
7) work with real estate development industry to help make
it profitable and "in demand" for them to develop higher density residential /
commercial areas
- the county should pay more attention to citizens input and
not so much to special interest input
- more emphasis should be put on developing rail
transportation
- more thought should be given to development rights (purchase
of) as a means of preserving farming as an industry
- in any case, its a case of you cant have your
cake and eat it to - rural development
- more attention to infill of existing urban areas
- more emphasis on small viable ag. enterprises
- rail systems developed
- develop biker and walk routes
- disincentives for driving autos (higher parking fees,
registration fees)
- limit the size of lots outside cities and urban areas
- improve existing roads rather than build new ones
- 20-20 is decreasing our farm values
- is 20-20 playing into hands of developers
- should consider the rail transportation plan
- pursue bike plan
- 1) include the cost of externalities into the land use
decisions
- 2) build community identity (encourage festival ideas)
- 3) encourage the understanding of the importance of local
market and locally produced goods
- encourage increased housing density
- discourage rural subdivisions
- minimize county involvement if possible
- work with state agencies
- develop a land use planning hand book
- develop community education programs
- recognize the presence of hamlets
Table 7:
- fully inventory cultural and natural resources,
demographic and regulatory patterns
- evaluate farmland productivity and other constraints to
growth
- look at long term impacts of transportation enhancements
- look for opportunities for urban infill that will minimize
impact and costs
- try to get more community based planning and citizen
involvement to plan their areas
- review growth constraints including density regulations
- integrate Dane County and RPC planning
- fire Jeanie Sieling
- let RPC have power over Madison and other cities and
villages
- we are told where we cant live tell new jobs where
they must go
- affordable homes in all the county
- no one must be forced to farm the land they own
- property owners must be allowed to have say in their land
use
- if my land is taken, I want money
- put Phil Soglin back on RPC
- 1) get rid of regional planning commission - create central
planning dept to assist inland use plans
- 2) develop transportation corridors at a regional level -
commuter rail partnered with bus system
- 3) promote industrial parks - shared between communities for
tax base sharing
- 4) lobby state to redistrict school boundaries to accurately
reflect where growth will occur
- 5) promote business development where the people are less
commute
- 6) affordable housing development in central core
- 7) develop / promote child care centers at places of
employment
- 8) develop mixed use (contained housing) subdivisions
- 9) preserve green corridors, open space wherever appropriate
- 10) create regional metro planning council - county
govt has resources = regional government
- dissolve RPC and shift County plan dept. with City i.e.
regional governance - non duplication of levels of gov.
- create commuter rail system - sales tax supported
- financial planning at county level with town input
- infill City of Madison
- developers share costs
- review annexation laws
Table 9:
- allow cluster development for private sewer lots in town
- City of Madison cannot use extraterritorial rights to deny
private sewer cluster development
- major arterial highways must be improved to handle traffic
growth
- industrial development encouraged in urban villages and
cities to encourage work and home
- North Beltline Corridor
- laws need changing to allow higher densities in urban areas
- allow muti-story small apartment buildings in smaller towns served by rail
- develop commuter rail to smaller communities and encourage
mass transit through financial disincentives for auto use
- change laws to allow sewers to serve multiple communities
- change zoning in major urban areas to allow higher
densities, infill - and create financial incentives
- institute a tax to provide funds for purchase of development
rights for farm land and underdeveloped areas so as to maintain farms and open areas
between communities
- establish urban boundaries on existing communities
- take control of your own municipalities growth
- keep growth on rail corridors within existing villages
- fill in brown areas in major cities
- limit density (one for 35 acres) in towns, take away the
priviledge
- growth for the sake of growth is not all that good
- consider impact on schools, transportation, drainage, before
recommendation for zone changes occur
- see business and manufacturing out in small towns of Dane
Co.
- need more incentives to save our farms and to do this we
must save the farmers who operate the farms
- there is to much opportunity for money to be made for a
farmer to cash in his or her land
- specifying urban boundaries around Madison, small towns, and
villages
- encourage growth along rail lines
- encourage growth in already developed areas
- create buffer zones around natural areas
- light rail using existing corridors
- developments along rail to justify costs
- scattered high density housing in Madison and Sun Prairie
Table 11:
- incentive for redevelopment of existing urban land
rather than gobble up further farmland
- continuing the use value assessment of ag land to help
prevent sprawl
- respect by county government for goals of individual
community
- continuing growth along lines of heavy traffic corridors
- property tax incentives to keep farmers farming profitably
(state?)
- encourage redevelopment of downtown areas in outlying
communities
- encourage small, light industry to locate within villages
and not in rural areas
- in some fashion encourage elderly farmers to keep their land
in ag (young people cant afford to go into ag
- eliminate city supervisor of zoning - decisions in outlying
communities
- improve highway infrastructure as per growth areas
- develop joint city/county services
- develop light rail
- provide incentives along defined rail corridor for
development -high density residential/ commercial
- provide incentive for development of affordable rental units
mixed throughout county
- 1) Madison should concentrate its growth in infill and
revitalization of brown field areas, not expanding its perimeter by annexing townships
- 2) each community should try to become unique centers of
culture, economic base, and mixed housing alternatives that is primarily controlled by the
local people who have to live there
- 3) the majority of the growth should be allowed to occur
outside Madison where people desire to live and these areas represent a clean slate to do
a better job of planning growth
- establish business and commercial areas for jobs outside
Madison where people desire to live
- try to reduce the need to commute to and from work primarily
and shopping secondarily
- most mass transit pipe dream requires very high subsidies to
exist - there may not be any alternative to small care that consume less gas
- mass transit needs to become more economically sound, not
handicap buses that need a $10 subsidy for a $1 ride
- encourage industrial bases outside Madison metro area to
promote economic growth and jobs
- incentives for residential and economic infill in all Dane
Co. municipalities
- concerted effort by developers to provide mixed income
housing alternatives including for persons at 30% CMI
- zoning changes that would allow for - apts for extended
families and rural areas
- get rid of the 1 house / 35 acres
- confine development in urban service areas
- purchase development rights or transfer development rights
prog.
- purchase of environmentally sensitive green space to
continue effort to keep separate communities separate
- develop alternative transportation methods
- planning agency responsibilities RPC need to be resolved
- planning agency responsibilities need to be clearly
identified for the MPO and focused
- one alternative would be to split the RPC - has and split
the MPO
- the southern 1/3 of Fitchburg needs to be de-annexed and
converted into a town
- maps produced need to clearly show the MPO boundary -
political boundaries obscure
- growth within urban services areas should clearly divide
planned growth within and unplanned urban sprawl
- incentives provided to promote infill development
- concerted educational efforts to "sell" advantages
of living in city to people who might otherwise choose to live in non-farm rural area
- more development of transportation that is environment
friendly
- encourage more towns to buy development rights from farmers
who need to realize money from their land
- county ordinances should move in the direction of making
landowners responsible for the consequences of their actions on environment, neighbors
- more meetings
Table 12:
- determine the growth allocation using a different
formula
- investigate the feasibility of a county wide TDR program to
remove some rural development rights
- help townships establish a PDR program to purchase
development rights or rural landowners
- develop a program of paying current landowners to establish
a conservation easement to reduce rural development
- encourage tax breaks for land that is developed into
muti-family residences
- mandate a ratio of multi-family / single family for new
developments for outlying communities
- Dane Co. ZNR does not approve any rural development that
takes ag land out of production
- do everything possible at county level to allocate almost
all new pop. to existing urban service areas
- improve mass transit county wide (without studies)
- have neighborhood / small town democratically / randomly
selected groups identify best land for infill development
- higher taxes on unsewered subdivisions
- county wide gas tax to be allocated to mass transit and
costs of more planning
- merge county and city planning dept.
- let people of each township decide ideal locations for
retail/ commercial / transportation nodes
- use principles in Ian McHays Design With Nature
- dont give in to assumptions of high population growth
- developments over 100 or 250 homes must conform to regional
growth plan
- commitment to 20+ transportation plan
- public bond to purchase development rights for Madison
growth
- town boards must follow development standards for slopes and
ridge line
- intensive education on property rights that limit
speculation, counter trend that people feel entitled to zone changes
- more public education on land use
- need to work with transportation officials to ensure that
networks support the growth, especially the high density growth
- work with housing officials, developers, to encourage
development to accommodate high density growth , vertical development vs. horizontal
development
- work with developers to discourage hopscotch developing,
concentrating instead on existing development areas, perhaps utilizing incentives of some
kind to support this growth
- work with farmers to encourage use of and transfer of
development rights
- work with developers to encourage cluster development
- change the way population is allocated to USAs
- to give higher to places growth is desired and desirable
such as proximity to transit corridors
- require municipal incorporation and a full range of urban
services as contingencies on any growth
- county should become a central source of revenue through tax
collections to support services provided by municipalities - rural residents pay for their
impacts on city services
- Dane Co. need to recognize and work in partnership with all
municipalities in Dane Co. including Madison
- transit should be funded at least in part by Dane Co. and
development should be approved if it supports transit and growth
- begin to consider race / class / social economic integration
as available in land use planning
b) The Economics of
Land Development
Group Flip Charts
Group 1:
Question
1: To what extent should our communities analyze the impact of development and
then factor in the financial costs of these impacts?
- Important/analyze economics takes resources to analyze costs; who
does it?
- Should economic impact statements be done?
- What will be done with results? What does it mean?
- Master Plans should be tool
- Should be broad brush
- Economics should be part of Master Plan
- Equally important at Master Plan and Development
- Towns dont look at analysis.
- Need mechanism in place
- Timing is a factor in economic analysis life cycle.
- Community satellites (police EMS)
- Demand for public services
- Pollution of existing services (stretch out)
- Change
- Bring in new people (positive)
- Stormwater runoff
- Place for children to live
- More tax base
- School needs
- Environmental impact
- New roads
Question 2: How
should our communities analyze the impacts of development?
- Tax value vs. public service cost
- Impacts commercial may have cost too
- Why want to grow macro basis analysis; micro
- Employment centers
- No fees that towns have charged; town board must justify
- Review vs. impact fee
- Formulas based on usage (example sewer)
- Social impacts single, multiple, starter homes option not available
- Cluster/single or multi
- Values
- Costs and who pays
- Master Plan/government lead role
- Government needs to set costs
- Towns
- Why pay for growth (costs runoff)
- Impacts on rural properties
- Accumulated impacts
- Impact wasnt known at time.
What impacts should be analyzed? What formulas or approaches
should be used?
Analyze costs for services overhead
1) variable obvious (general)
2) indirect/accumulative hard to cost
3) Growth/major reconstruction
4) Indirect runoff; social/conjection/crime rate; pollution
cumulative how prevent; aesthetics; loss of resources (trout stream); loss of character
5) New parks and rec opportunity
Historic cost should be starting point cost basis
Purpose and value to community economic benefits; maybe commercial
needed; social benefits
Should look at benefits too hard to deal with
Question 3:
How should these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated
into the development process itself?
- Economic analysis of cost and benefits
- Must look at value/purpose for communities
- want to encourage some; may not want other
- Social impacts
- Schools largest impact difficult to coordinate between schools and
town/village
- Right of individual to develop own land vs. community values
- how compensated
- tax recognition of development potential
- Shared costs/benefits: city/community, developer, problem proportions
- School cost/formula
- What is role of town in development? do they have the tools
necessary? Are they right entity? (example Fitchburg)
May need to incorporate
Six mile square planning
Roles of different entities; dont have resources yes?
Question 4: If you
were County Executive, what ten things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in
Dane County?
1) Look at financial impact of growth not only landowners.
2) Provide assistance to town government so they can do economic
analysis.
3) Work with villages and cities to implement zoning ordinances to
allow more dense growth (example 2020).
4) Require all units of government to develop plans that meet
certain county requirements.
5) Center growth in existing urban area or contiguous and
underutilized and unused in urban area.
6) Master plans for larger cities and smaller plans for smaller
communities, i.e. township.
7) More intergovernmental agreements between municipalities and
townships and villages.
8) Develop mechanisms for school governments to play larger growth
in municipal/town development decision-making process.
9) Impact fee statute need change to be easier more user friendly
for municipalities too rigid and low
10) Good relationship for between schools and municipalities.
Group 2:
Question
1: To what extent should our communities analyze the impact of development and
then factor in the financial costs of these impacts?
1) Master planning/plat review
2) Take dollars to good analysis costs
3) Life cycle of costs for Master Plan of Development
(neighborhood plan)
4) Community master plan, neighborhoods, development plat
5) Now want to grow houses, types of land use, types of
commercial, green space, preserve ag (?), type farms, types of services needed, single
family generally net wash, schools, liability, commercial and industrial
6) Single/multifamily are gains in tax base
Question 2: How should
our communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed? What
formulas or approaches should be used?
- Costs rank order; look short and long term; look at what
is lost.
- Balance attend to individual and public good.
- Identify what do we gain? What do we lose?
- Seek impact from community developments all areas effected.
- Value level and type of demands on service.
- Place value on aesthetic and ecology (environmental).
- Develop standards to be used in formulas; service impacts.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Development costs paid by individual developer.
- Long term costs prepaid by community.
- Developer pays variable percentage of long term cost.
- Consider transfer of development rights as type of payment ?
- Should development costs be paid by one children?
Group 3:
- Transportation patterns
- Support or undermine public transportation
- Sewage treatment
- Tax impact on residents
- Stormwater runoff
- Schools
- Police and fire
Question 1: To what
extent should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the
financial costs of these impacts?
- Have a sense of the aggregate costs of development.
- Have developers complete a property tax impact statement
- An assessment of whether a development will enhance or
detract from public transportation infrastructure.
- Development should be assessed based on the TYPE of
development. We should assess what is the perceived benefit from society.
- Costs and impacts on land availability environmental costs
as well as long-term lost natural resources.
- Assess the impact when we make a major investment in public
services, e.g.: schools, transportation arterials, transit hubs or school location.
- Tax impact statement at the time of annexation.
- Having a way of determining what current investment is on
infrastructure and return on investment of infill development.
- Costs of development "holding costs".
- Analyzed costs, local, regional and county
Question 2: How should
our communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed? What
formulas or approaches should be used?
- The local planning process, e.g., land use plan,
transportation plan and transportation budget.
- As part of approval process and annexation and individual
development.
- The how and what to analyze should be weighted against the
costs. Avoid creation of complicated, detailed procedures which increase the costs.
(Lets not overanalyze.)
- An analysis of Town of Dunn study methodology and use it as
a basis for similar studies in different types of communities.
- Using traditional methods cost benefit analysis; sense of
return on investment, present value calculation.
- Identifying things that we dont want to lose, i.e.,
historical value, environmental.
- To look at the estimated costs for providing service vs.
expected use specifically public transportation.
- Understand the affordability index, i.e. individual
household level ratio of income to housing costs.
- Timing: should occur at a point of major public investment
not each development activity.
- Measure how quickly from application to approval.
- Measure the economic impact of development by government,
e.g., Monona Terrace collateral costs, Expo Center, Highway 12.
- Any system of analysis should have a review process.
- To come up with examples or models of development that would
provide a basis of comparison, i.e. based on residential, mixed use.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Initial costs should be paid for by the first user and
then public funds.
- Some impacts of development are difficult to put a dollar
value on, e.g. population density. Formula would reflect incentives and disincentives.
- If there is a sense that the new development supports a
community land use plan that those costs of infrastructure extension would be supported
(incentive).
- Part of the "1st user" costs should be some
recognition of the extension of infrastructure.
- Impact fees on developers on a sliding scale based on
results of property tax impact statements.
- Unintended direct costs that may appear years later that
impact the taxpayer need to move tax.
- Should charge it to the development process when it can be
directly associated to that development.
- Things less easy to place a direct dollar value, but are
recognized as positive or negative, i.e. social or environmental) apply a multiplier to
the property tax less than one or greater than one, depending on whether it is seen as a
positive or negative.
- Should identify specific areas within the county for
commercial or residential areas anything outside would be paid by the local taxing unit of
government.
Other
- Some effort needs to be made to communicate in plain
English continual efforts.
- Implement a process that allows individual decision
implementing the approved plan and move quickly and inexpensively.
- "Plain English" communication needs to go from the
local planning to the developer process must be recognized at all levels.
- Also need visual images to communicate to the public, e.g.
graphics, pictures, maps.
- Make process clear and predictable.
- KEEP IT SIMPLE.
Group 4:
Question 1: To what
extent should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the
financial costs of these impacts?
- Review zoning codes, conditional use granting process.
Boundary agreements for service delivery prior to development. Before the fact. Need more
evaluations of impacts. Impacts on adjacent areas. Developer, builder, city, loss of tax
base, increased cost of services. Cost of analysis must be considered.
- Efficient, coordinated corridors.
- Non quantifiable factors (not easily; quantifiable
health/wildlife; factors impacts)
- Buffer zones.
- People moving out expect same services as in town.
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed? What
formulas or approaches should be used?
How:
- Consider resources available.
- Cost-benefit analysis; least most sophisticated.
- Prioritize short vs. Long-term cost; up-front vs. Long-term
cost. What level? State, county, local?
Which:
- Schools, traffic, farmland preservation/loss, services,
physical/environmental potential for contaminants groundwater.
- Factors which cant be easily quantified other value
systems.
- "Quality of life" lifestyle changes,
jobs-market-place.
- Need both economics vs./and what is important.
Formulas/Approaches:
- Local officials/academical
- Computers Mapping models
- Transportation, environmental impacts
- Cash benefit analysis/priorities comparisons/case studies
- GIS
- Contingent valuation options
- Real estate values/market factors
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
First need analysis of what kinds of costs priorities
- property tax + or 1 ??
- income tax
- impact tax as permitted by state, municipalities change?,
expand need to
- include schools highest single cost!
- sales tax
- user tax
- license fees
- grants
- TIF districts city, village
- Developers new area vs. extension of existing area
- Incentives for infill development zoning, CUPs, annexations
- Public vs. developers cost need balance
Group 5:
Impacts (types)
- Housing
- Define "loss farmland" in relation to development.
- Pressure on landowners on fringe to stay/sell.
- Project facility needs relevant to what you know about
future growth.
- Balance of impact analysis between communities.
- Competition between communities.
- Need more services (all types) voluntary and professional.
Question 1: To what extent
should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the financial
costs of these impacts?
- Large extent!
- All parties wont get what they want.
- County or A.P. Comm. define guidelines that all parties work
within.
- Impacts of each communitys growth on other
communities.
- Costs are associated with the development causing the
impact.
- Quality of farmland factored as cost.
- Question: Shouldnt we do it right at cost of losing a
potential development?
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed? What
formulas or approaches should be used?
- Project service needs based on whats "good"
(needed) for area.
- Obvious vs. hidden costs.
- Primary impacts 2tiered economy, natural resources.
- Approach secondary less each to id., i.e., more traffic
downtown.
- Seek input/involvement of community dwellers.
- Community needs to do reality check on developers cost
estimates of impacts and add as necessary. Get hidden costs out in the open.
- Different methods give different results need to
standardize..
- Knowledgeable staff.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Cost put on developer or "parcel" where impacts
arise from.
- Acknowledge impacts to school districts with direct
contribution. Same for roads, etc.
- Municipalities need to assess how creating TIF takes away
from other areas and services.
- Regional/community plans dont always have buy in or
arent followed by political bodies. How to get buy in and need to.
- County Board decisions that impact local land use and create
costs. Locals have little control or input. Need greater voice for unincorporated areas.
Other Thoughts
- Improvement in agriculture drove people to cities. Cities
arent the only priority. Town government can offer many ideas as they have the land
that we discuss.
- Cumulative costs of all developments need consideration. It
cant be on case-by-case decision-making. "First one in wants to be the last one
in."
- Even though ag production is gaining efficiency, there is
the need to keep some ag land available as markets shift. Who pays to preserve? Incentive
for landowners?
Group 6:
- How we deal with agriculture.
- Conflict between land use "neighbors" subdivisions
and farms
- Roads upkeep
- Availability of housing
- Services cost more than is collected
- City services utilities, sewer, water
- Number of
- Schools
- Busing
- Police, Fire, EMS
- Zoning business giving more than taking back
Question 1: To what extent
should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the financial
costs of these impacts?
- Analyze in depth
- Economics primary measurement
- Human/social value needs to be considered
- Cheap development today will cost us a lot in future
- Park us is important
- Using cost benefit format
- Consider all cost for development
- Will help us
- Individual development may not result in best land use
- Consider long-term ("next generation") in
development plan
- Consensus building within community
- Establish definite guidelines in long-range plan
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development?
- Start with local community development
- Combined with overall county plan to smooth out edges and
coordinate
- Stick with plan
- Review frequently for relevancy long-range 5 years
- Develop strict land use and stick to it
What impacts should we analyze?
- Schools
- EMS, Fire
- Roads
- Business
- Are there enough businesses to support growth
- Can businesses survive in the dev environment
- Different set of factors depending on where development is
being located
- Utilities electrical
- Environmental impact pollution water pollution (storm
water), noise, light, air
- Open spaces
- Benefits to taxpayers
- Crowding
- Quality of life
- Tourism
- Historic characteristics of community
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Developer pays impact fees
- Right now future generations are paying for our development
- Development dedicate land for schools and parks
Develop costs for taking
Question 4: If you were
County Executive, what ten things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in Dane
County?
- Do what you are doing today.
- Collect customer.
- Develop concrete plan stick to it.
- Educate public on root problems/issues.
- Keep user fees to minimum snow-mob
- Provide opportunities for affordable housing incentives for
developers.
- Remove existing policies that encourage urban sprawl
(minimum 35 acres/resident).
- Identify sensitive "not-to-be developed" areas.
- Support agriculture and other industries to maintain
economic base.
- Preserve/encourage small town development downtown.
- Publish results in easy to use format.
- Keep solid knowledge base of demographics, economic, social,
environmental data base.
Special Issues/Needs
- Balancing provision of services with growth.
- Inherent parochialism of decisions.
- Paying for needed services.
- Land/wildlife preservation.
- Transportation.
- Schools.
- Threats of annexation from "outside".
- Loss of farm land.
- Retention of community identity; balancing new and old.
- Danes 7 points.
- Housing mix/costs "not here" issue.
- Lack of staff and expert advice.
- Communications/cooperating intra-county.
- Interdependence.
- Consideration of individual property owners rights.
- Delineating growth boundaries.
- Spreading economic development of dev. equity.
- Developer manipulations: government, landowners.
- Assure consistency of communications say same thing no
matter who asks.
- Specifying population density.
- Visualizing/promoting aesthetic aspects of area.
- Rules on unsewered housing.
- Recognition of relationship to met Madison.
< Group 7:
Question 1: To what extent
should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the financial
costs of these impacts?
- Decent mass transportation in Dane County rail.
- Plan, communicate, cooperate, accept and try to understand,
listen and hear.
- Play "Sim City".
- County provide outside facilitators for planning.
- County presence during town planning as equal partner.
- Encourage and promote all "town" citizens to be
involved in town identity and culture.
- Create hot line.
- Local issues addressed first consensus.
- Make school districts part of planning process.
- Intergovernmental contracts
- Require cost/benefit analysis before proceeding
- Establish growth boundaries (cities, villages, towns)
- Liaison between and among all governing units within the
town, i.e. village, town, etc.
- Liaison among the towns and whole county and meetings.
- Development rights programs.
- Provide true absolute.
- County moratorium on growth of urban service areas.
Different Regulations
- because the regs could be written for all (however could be
aimed at one or another).
- Make rules to accommodate an even "keel".
- Recognition of population makeup and population density with
respect to dollars earned/spent within the town.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Impact fees from developer
- Shouldnt be prohibition on impact fees.
- Shared cost by who benefits most! Be very specific about
benefits.
- Communities should reexamine zoning regulations.
- Maybe all "costs" cant be covered.
- Grants for "larger" bodies should contribute.
- Costs from commuters into urban jurisdictions should be
accounted for.
- Consider city employment tax to commuters.
- Communities should be able to offset costs through service
agreements.
Question 4: If you were
County Executive, what ten things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in Dane
County?
- Were All In This Together (Rural/Urban)
- Take into consideration the cultural impacts (drive kids
back into town for activities).
- Analyze Impact Criteria document financial impact by type so
you can modulate each type (residential, business, utility, school, transportation
Group 8:
Question 1: To what
extent should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the
financial costs of these impacts?
- School costs/addition need to be explicitly known.
- Questions scale 110 to what extent should we analyze:
9/9/89/9
- Communities have records of developmental costs...do they
use them?
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed?
- How have appropriate "expert body" do and supply
analysis DNR supply "cost" of natural resources.
- Affected entities (a school district) should be able to
examine developmental proposals.
- Taxing jurisdictions have different (sometimes overlapping)
boundaries. Establish template of cooperative agreements.
What formulas or approaches should be used?
- School districts are very complicated. Schools have clear
cost data...need formula for fire, roads and other services.
- In order to analyze costs, you have to have community
standards.
- Get an "expert" (UW) to identify the pressures on
rural development.
- Communities have to pay for experts!
- Analyze impact of development on transportation
infrastructure (police, fire, roads, snow removal).
- Outline implications on police, fire, roads, snow removal by
type of development.
- Take into account conversion of farm land use. Milking to
cash crop. Lots of implications.
- What happens when development happens on a border one town
or community can impact another town.
- Political boundaries artificial.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Impact fees from developer.
- Shouldnt be prohibition on impact fees.
- Shared cost by who benefits most! Be very specific about
benefits.
- Communities should reexamine zoning regulations.
- Maybe all "costs" cant be covered.
- Grants for "larger" bodies should contribute.
- Cost from commuters into urban jurisdictions should be
accounted for.
- Consider city employment tax to above.
- Communities should be able to offset costs through service
agreements.
- Developmental costs should be incorporated into development
process.
Question 4: If you were
County Executive, what ten things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in Dane
County?
- County could facilitate and establish local community
standards.
- Meet and discuss related items with local community boards.
- Develop land use plan with more local town/special interest
input.
- Coordinate standard.
- Establish clearinghouse to crunch numbers and share data.
- Encourage cooperative agreements between towns "revenue
sharing"
- Local boards need more support to clarify/enforce "35
acre" parameters.
Group 9:
Question 1: To what extent
should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the financial
costs of these impacts?
- New development costly financially and environmentally.
- What is the proper allocation, if any, of development costs.
- Yes, every community should analyze impacts of development.
- Municipalities are already requiring that developers address
infrastructure.
- Social, environmental, psychic costs, services, police,
fire, sewer, trash.
- Every development should internalize 100% of costs.
- Costs are not considered far enough in advance (510 years).
- Take longer view: 50100 year plan.
- Consider what it is we really want for grandchildren, etc.
- Growth projected by Vision 2020 is slightly greater than
deaths.
- Dealing with growth we have to do this (not an option).
- Needs to be a framework: "cost factors" table vs.
full cost-benefit analysis for proposed projects.
- Agreement on universal cost methodologies.
- Some costs vary with location: factor in where people live
and where they work (and environmental impacts).
- Costs with populations moving from dense base (cities to
suburbs) decay.
- Use of property taxes so that we "pay as we go",
no longer subsidize decline and commuters, etc.
- New housing is not being subsidized by the community; is
subsidizing existing community.
- Consider investments already made by bodies of government
open space, etc. allocate those values to those who are developing nearby properties.
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development?
- Include non-quantifiable impacts in analyses (externalities)
impact of putting more people in one spot (visual, schools, character, transportation).
- Include future costs as well as present.
- How can you minimize the negative impact!
- Identify places where development should occur.
- Set up good system of incentives/disincentives.
- Include the public as much as possible (especially specific
to location vs. Longer term societal benefit).
What impacts should be analyzed?
- Transportation
- Physical infrastructure
- Schools
- Open space
- Watersheds
- Air quality
- Agriculture
- Quality of life
- Choice of lifestyles
- Visual/aesthetics
- Affordability
- Diversity, economic, etc.
- Community sense of being part of (cultural)
- Magnitude of impact
- Services
- Wild space/impact on natural environment
- Recreation
- Cascading effect of development (snowballing if you build
one, more may want to follow)
- Burden on centralized facilities
- Public opinion
What formulas or approaches should be used?
- Incorporate (in partnership, not imposing) citizens advisory
board into RPC; expand RPCs authority (broader than local community level).
- A net present value approach should be used for future
costs.
- Define RPCs authority and local authority.
- Reach consensus in region about what needs to be protected
or developed.
- Standardization of formulas re: economic analysis of
impacts.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Developer pays full cost of development that goes into
public fund to mitigate impacts of development.
- Set cap on level of public support for subsidizing new
development.
- Identify which developments are suitable for public
subsidies. The other developments dont get any subsidies.
- Any development fees get passed to new residents.
- Developers post assessment fees to study impacts.
- Community should finance development of infrastructure (what
happened 25 years ago).
- Incentives for infill development (share cost of modernizing
infrastructure).
Question 4: If you were
County Executive, what ten things would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in Dane
County?
- Encourage things that get people to move back to central
city.
- PDRs for protection of critical areas in exchange for
selective development.
- Programs to help with cleanup of contaminated urban areas
and redevelopment.
- "Polluters pay" principle should be applied.
- Farm markets protection help farmers stay in business.
(Throw out current farmland protection policies in state they dont work.)
- Identify consumer needs, work to have currently developed
areas address those.
- Gas tax make driving expensive.
- Improve public transportation put it where the jobs are.
- Integrate job locations into existing job structure.
- Facilitate higher density development in urban areas (make
it a permitted use).
- Reduce the impact of new buildings increased energy
efficiency and passive solar design standards.
- Set an urban growth boundary for central urban area.
- Process for evaluating and limiting "sprawl
marts".
b)The Economics of
Land Development
Individual "Impacts of Development" Worksheets
Question 1: To what extent
should our communities analyze the impact of development and then factor in the financial
costs of these impacts?
- Initial costs and maintenance costs big at start need
dollars to maintain, though; additional future demand increases?
- Using a cost/benefit format, factor in all the costs related
to development such as schools, roads, parks, utilities, etc. as passed to the tax
increases to the governmental unit which is responsible for granting development
approvals. Also what impact of the loss of farmland and open space to the overall economy
of the county and the state.
- We need to consider long term costs and the irreversibility
of farm land loss (including also forests and undisturbed open lands. The information
available on previous developments. No hiding costs to influence decisions!
- The economies should be the most important single factor of
many factors: clean air/water is crucial and will cost if polluted.
- Analysis is important in addressing the "where" of
growth "financial costs" could be one factor in analyzing "where" but
should not be the sole determining factor.
- Initial costs should be assessed to developers and passed on
to occupants. Open space should be donated.
- Who pays for it values paid for by the people who get the
value. Planning must be done ahead and then the plan must be adhered to, not changed by
each Town Board. Human value must be considered when counting financial cost cheap
development may be expensive to the county.
- What facilities will be involved and will the community be
able to handle this rural growth. Establish guidelines for use of community facilities.
Establish who is responsible for roads, fire protection and EMS and other services.
"Institutional memory."
- Check with school boards as to how taxes are impacted by
additional services cost of rural development vs. urban.
- Zoning codes and land use plans, CUPs, school district
needs, boundary agreements. Who does it? Who pays? Staff, consultants.
- Communities must analyze impacts of all costs associated
with increased development. Only then will people realize the services we take for
granted, especially when they choose to move to the "country", but want all city
services.
- Some cannot be factored loss of habitat, aesthetics,
pollution. Services schools, fire, etc. Taxes, costs of new homes who is/should pay for
increased demand for services what level is acceptable?
- The community, individually should involve as many people as
they can, getting them to do as much as they can. Things such as land use, zoning.
- More development, more traffic impact on how much traffic an
area can handle, the time it takes to go from point A to B. The wear and tear on the road
and the cost of upkeep. Agreements between towns.
- Need evaluation, before the fact, so there is a common
understanding of costs and benefits. Not enough attention in most cases now. Need to
consider impacts of development in adjacent areas and in areas where current development
will serve as transportation corridor.
- To the greatest extent possible within staff and fiscal
constraints, who will do analysis? How paid for? Development alternatives and their
associated costs should be compiled, presented, and discussed. Favorable alternatives
should be pursued.
- All costs should be considered. Look at long term plan what
will be affect on seventh generation?
- Those with resources are often fewest overlooked in the
aggregate. If we are talking about balanced growth, the impact of development should be
looked at from several angles. Finances are, of course, an issue. Economically, socially,
environmentally, all of us should think in terms of equity everything as interrelated.
- To a large extend, we must look beyond our own borders to
see how our planning effects neighboring municipalities (this includes townships). The
county or regional planners must lay ground rules that municipalities and developers will
be held to. But these need not be specific. They must be enforceable.
- In depth analysis is an absolute must. Sometimes there has
to be more consideration for each others interests. This means balance. We cannot
have pristine conditions if we have development something has to be sacrificed by all
affected. The first person in must realize that they cant be the last.
- What will be done with the results of economic impact
statements/studies?
- Communities should, through a master planning process,
review the impacts based on a benefit vs. cost analysis. Both the benefits and needs to
grow vs. the direct and indirect costs. It must be viewed as a macro basis commercial,
employment factor and affordable housing and move-up-housing (?), etc.
- Serious staff review and political discussions of all
financial and social implications (where allowed by law) of developments.
- There should be a master plan to handle the growth which
includes schools, streets, growth in place, EMS, fire dept. The cost should be on impact
fees on the new developed areas.
- Must do. But, must realize costs to do this and must have a
way to do something with the results/the analysis.
- To the extent that costs are covered and taxpayers are not
adversely impacted or services strained by development.
- Need to pay for costs of infrastructure; those costs should
be paid for by the developing area; road impacts are difficult to assess goes beyond the
municipality; road safety is even harder to assess.
- Development impacts should be analyzed in a comprehensive
way not just fiscal. Comprehensive impacts include fiscal, economic, environmental,
social, transportation, housing and all should be analyzed in a quantitative or
qualitative manner. Also, impacts are regional not just municipal. We must account for
this too.
- Increased development costs for the community should be
factored into the cost of the lot.
- To a large extent by everyone living in Dane County and Dane
County government officials.
- Who should provide analysis? School, utility and other
infrastructure costs should be looked at. Who should pay for those costs? Cities should
examine zoning requirements and impacts zoning codes.
- If development is residential or commercial, how will it
affect the surrounding area. Will it make the area better, will it generate more income or
not, will transportation be increased.
- To the extent that the implications are clear by category
costs in dollars in cultural and attitudinal changes. Inter-jurisdictional costs (one
affecting another) problem artificial and political boundaries. Who would pay for studies?
Check own records how important?
- What kinds of impacts come to mind? To what extend should we
analyze impact?
- It is important to analyze the effects of development so
intelligent decisions can be made. Another idea is to use an approved development as a
test case and analyze the actual costs to the jurisdiction. One of the worst problems we
have is development at the borders of jurisdictions where one town/city/village gets the
tax dollars and the neighbor has to pay some of the costs.
- Landowners want to maintain rights to land use that will
maximize their profits others want to invest in new opportunities. Taxpayers are reluctant
to see growth such as new or expanded schools. Communities need to keep growth organized
appropriate to use residential, commercial, etc.
- Service, environmental, impact, cost, balance and
personal/group, benefits gain lose.
- To a large degree, finite resources need to be well managed
for the common good. Transportation corridors, fingers of urban and farmland interwoven.
Nodes of commerce at reasonable intervals community open space.
- Population poverty; ecology birds, animals, herbicides,
pesticides (e.g. golf course).
- All costs to be reviewed to a large extend. The cost would
be broken down back order cost of what is costed, value.
- Planning is essential citizens do not want surprises like
after the fact need a new school water system etc. Need to know cost and who pays
understand benefits-liabilities.
- Consider environmental/social impacts prior to development
short and long term, costs to be born by developer rather than having to remedy problems
later at taxpayer expense.
- Extent to look at all aspects to various levels of
government and school system and taxpayer/home business owner, land resources. We could
initiate a cost comparison for residential, business, agriculture development in
categories and then a local government could determine which are would need to be
developed to promote POSITIVE financial growth. Use tangible numbers; use intangibles less
frequently.
- Analyze impact at the time of a major investment in public
services sizing of inceptor sewers, placement of sizing at transportation arterial or
transit hub, placement of school location. Try impact statement at time of annexation.
- It would be valuable to have a standard method for
identifying the cost of development so that these can be compared from project to project,
type of development to other types of development.
- In reviewing development proposals, the developer should be
required to complete a property tax impact statement.
- Different types of development (cluster, scattered) are
associated with different costs. Understand these costs. But also understand how desirable
its type of development is as perceived by the people themselves.
Question 2: How should our
communities analyze the impacts of development? What impacts should be analyzed? What
formulas or approaches should be used?
- Level and demand of service types (schools/roads/parks/etc.)
- Analyze non-quantifiable impacts.
- Adopt a proactive stance in development instead of waiting
for a developer to come in with a proposal by determining the needs of the community and
the ideal growth pattern. Then a developer will hopefully look at this before coming in
with a proposal and think of all the potential costs and what might be done in the
proposal to ameliorate some of the costs by setting aside land in development for parks
and schools, etc. reduce lot sizes to decrease streets costs and fire protection and
utilities, etc.
- Formulate goals first! We cant know where were
going until we envision what we do and dont want later. Use other communities
experiences as a model. Understand that a plan needs to be somewhat plastic to allow for
unexpected bends in the road. It is an ongoing, never ending process and a plan
doesnt have a start and an end date or unchangeable goals.
- Community goals should have cost analysis tied to them.
Environmental (air pollution), cost of housing, cost of services to that project, benefits
of tax base.
- How to analyze: analyze in conjunction with "master
plan" or land use plan/be prepared to update plan, as appropriate. What impacts:
positive and negative impacts. What formulas/approaches: (blank)
- Workshops such as this one. Open spaces should be developed
for easy access. Usage fees can be charged to help pay upkeep.
- A combination of city and township preliminary planning
should be done to establish local plans by the people who know the land the best then move
these local plans into a comprehensive plan that provides adjustments and uniformity to
the whole county. This plan must then be enforced. Some landowner compensation may need to
be done.
- Fiscally, reality and future. Schools, sewers, fire, EMS,
roads, businesses. In discussion groups such as today try to be very visionary. What have
we to gain by doing a certain development? All should know the approached and plans the
community is thinking.
- Analyze on an individual basis. Have public meetings for
input, provide long-term cost figures, analyze erosion impact and entire environmental
impacts.
- Computer models, mapping, north ring, Vision 2020, commuter
rail, water quality.
- We need to have a comprehensive "list" of impacts
which we have already partially identified and discern how those might be mitigated.
Finally, we must estimate the cost of that mitigation. We can tap into the
knowledge/experience of local officials and academics. Impacts should be covered 100% by
those who cause them.
- Again, some impacts cannot really be quantified to
surrounding areas (services, etc). Look at effects in other communities.
- Dealing with land lock facilities! Zoning, transportation,
using what we have and building with that.
- Schools, roads, loss of farmland (wildlife) taxes, traffic.
No distinction between area towns growing into each other. Services (compare other growth
areas).
- Consider resources currently available to do evaluation.
Determine what we would like to do (as to evaluation) and resources it would require.
Determine how amount of additional resources to do the evaluation; roads, traffic,
schools, farmland preservation, fire, police, refuse should be analyzed; benefit and cost
analysis continual evaluation are approaches that should be used.
- Primarily in quantifiable manner, but also need to
incorporate possible impacts that are not so easily quantifiable. As many as possible
begin with financial, quality of life, environmental. Use accepted academic approaches
within fiscal/staff constraints, incorporating public education and involvement.
- Cost benefit analysis is only. Include the public as much as
possible. Impacts to consider are: transportation, infrastructure, watersheds, agriculture
(important), choice of lifestyle, aesthetics, magnitude of impact, city services, natural
environment, open space.
- Developers doing commercial must be required to develop a
percentage of affordable housing. Analysis should be in terms of sprawl, cost of increased
services is the community or area growing faster than it should in terms of extending
services? Number of people affected who should decide.
- Perhaps a process of primary and secondary impacts would be
appropriate. Primary would focus on economic, natural resources, etc. Secondary would
consider the individual landowner and neighboring property owners, as well as adjoining
counties and municipalities (again, townships must be included in the definition of
municipalities).
- What is environmentally sound? What is affordable? Costs of
services? What is your neighbor doing? Tax base what is it doing for me? Look for a zero
tax impact balance commercial and residential.
- Direct and indirect impacts vs. benefits and the need to
house our children and the growth of our county. Promote growth that meets Vision 2020
objectives through higher densities which should reduce impacts on certain costs.
- Through plat review at plat level and by adopting a
comprehensive plan to serve as guideline for city future growth goals.
- A master plan which should include single family compared to
individual development yes a plan on development or impact fees.
- Direct costs, indirect costs social, school, environmental,
character, longterm costs
- Road cost/safety hard to assess. Air quality/quality of life
impacts also hard to assess. Immediate costs (new sewer/new water main/new road) easier to
assess than other costs.
- Comprehensive impacts should be analyzed. There are models
to estimate impacts and some quantify impacts and others analyze impacts more
qualitatively. These should be used to assess impacts. Tools should be developed to allow
decision-makers to analyze impact, quickly, yet comprehensively. There are a number of
people at the UW and Extension looking at these issues. These issues need to be
coordinated and developed into a useful approach that decision-makers can use to examine
development.
- Stormwater runoff increased fire and police protection
increased costs that need to be paid by new subdivision or developer.
- Studies and reports from the public and Dane County
government or financial and all impacts. Dane County Planning Commission define
guidelines. (Impacts of each community is growth on other communities.) Questionnaires
sent to the public in each community in Dane County. Project service needs based on what
is good for the area. Obvious vs. hidden costs. Input from everyone. Community needs to
check on developers cost on estimates and impacts. Knowledgeable staff. (2 tiered
approach.)
- Utility holding costs for extension of services. Capital
improvement plans. Number of police per capita. Develop community goals.
- School-roads-policing services. Where will the money come
from to provide those services?
- Local information dollars; DNR environmental affects; UW
rural societal effects.
- Schools have boundaries that go across jurisdiction lines,
thereby development can affect the taxes in a neighboring jurisdiction. Analysis of the
jurisdictions own financial records can be a start.
- We must assess the impacts by establishing reasonable
accounting methods so all costs are reviewed all objects must be analyzed from cost of
schools to cost of transportation building of roads and maintaining them. Water runoff
clean air and water support of residential units and commercial units vis a vis one
another.
- Define standards to be used; service, environmental; a
community view; standardize for.
- Objective and subjective systems must be balanced look at
services, land use, transportation, environmental protection and farmland preservation.
Develop models of various approaches, compare and integrate to create the structure which
serves the public the best.
- Aesthetic/ecological vs. dollars: death of people, animals,
plants, earth. Drinking feel good, etc. eventual death; diet feel good, etc. eventual
death; present development feel good, etc. eventual death.
- Each on its own and then a part of the whole. All should be
analyzed. By how the people will benefit the most and last by cost and the most good for
people.
- Impact as determined by each institution, agency, facility.
Impact across areas build a new school land, water, traffic; community views.
- Analyze impact on environmental resources. Impact on
social/economic/political infrastructure. Large developers bear costs initially.
- Separate school districts. Allow heart of community, help to
identify comm. Local information data supplied to a county level and crunched. All impacts
at first quantified and then intangibles state level for resources; formulas? per person,
per piece of property, per community?; approach from bottom up.
- Local planning land use plan transportation plans and
budget.
- Over both short and long-term; cost of extending
infrastructure; return on investment approach; consider opportunity cost of development,
i.e. if we develop this way (density) we cant later develop in another way.
- Focus not only on cost but also on desirability as perceived
by people; make sure people understand the cost of development, but also allow for them to
make their choices.
Question 3: How should
these development costs be paid for? To what extent should they be incorporated into the
development process itself?
- Developers: all initial and percentage of future costs (vary
percentage based on accommodations for public good). Taxpayers at site: percentage of
maintenance (higher than developers). Taxpayers off site (municipal, county, state and
federal) percentage of items for "public good".
- Each development should be analyzed both as to current costs
and benefits (once the development is completed and future costs/benefits which can
reasonably be anticipated. Developers should dedicate land for future, streets, schools
and parks, etc., for example) as part of the costs to the developer itself.
- They will be paid for by not only the developers and
taxpayers, but by future generations if we continue leaving out long-term losses of viable
land; pollution accumulation and depletion of nonrenewable resources, etc. If we were to
truly gain control of change we need to acknowledge some of the root causes wasteful
consumerism, uncontrolled population growth and denial/ignorance of the true impact of our
average lifestyle.
- Direct impact (net) costs: developer/new owners. OK to
incorporate into process provided development approval process does not take too long.
- Property tax personal property tax basic ways. Developer
pays and adds cost to property when sold.
- Zoning needs to consider "takings" cost as we zone
out certain uses. Society must pay for what it values! Developers need to fact in all cost
to develop land.
- Impact fees for water and sewer. Developer fees. Completely
incorporated into development. Some tax incentives, if huge tax basis in coming years.
- Cost of development paid by developer long-term by taxpayer.
- Property tax, income tax, impact tax, sales tax, license
fee, user fee, grants
- Fully incorporated into development process. What is the
profit that developers accrue from these developments? What percentage is fair for them to
pay up front? Those who buy into these developments should also pay either as separate fee
or folded into cost.
- Both new and not new residents will need to pay but new
residents need to pay for increased demands on schools, police, etc. But who pays for
improving transportation, sewers, etc. whole community will have to pay. Long-term
residents will resent need to address this.
- Taxpayer that will be effected by the results of the change.
If it is a development, the developer should be paying for a large part of it. Referendums
should be brought to the table.
- As large as the state level end or down to the local level.
Everybody pays eventually through taxes, but some of the cost could be shared by the
developers.
- Combination of sources: development process want to preserve
access to next generation not too large a proportion; some on each end of government
town/village, county, state.
- Expand use of impact fees pursue state legislative
authorization allowing municipalities to impose impact fees. Expand beyond
recreational/open space and sewer/water to things like transit/transportation.
- All should be internalized! New development should pay all
costs but then we run risk of making new developments only affordable for people.
- Jointly between municipalities because everything is
interrelated. Note: unincorporated areas lack representation.
- Impact fees; a formula that could cap the profit available
to the developer; problem is it all comes down to the lot owner who wants to move who pays
for the services?
- The costs should be paid by both the development and the
community the needs assessed in the cost/benefit review. Additional comment: development
needs to be viewed as "people" like you and I, not just infrastructure. Not its
time to shut the door.
- All infrastructure cost of development should be paid by
developer a clearer more flexible "impact fee" statute may allow communities to
recover some of the indirect costs Schools, stormwater, additional city services that
assigning to a development is difficult under existing "impact fees" statute.
- One way and that is by impact fee example city or area
should be estimating costs such as water, schools and sewerage costs.
- Based upon who benefits. Should be shared by developer and
community.
- Impact fees; "bedroom" tax to help fund
development of schools you build a house you contribute to school building cost; TIF
districts is it fair for one taxing district to be able to take tax base out of another
taxing districts base?
- They are incorporated in terms of impact fees. Costs should
be paid by developer to extent possible. Also, important to recover school district costs.
And, cumulative impacts are also important to consider. One development may not have an
impact but one after another will.
- Developer subdivision.
- By the taxpayers and by the people wanting to develop
(developers) in each community. Costs are associated with the development causing the
impact. Quality of farmland factors/costs. Do we plan right or face losing residents and
potential development. Acknowledge impacts to schools districts with direct contribution
(same for roads). Need to assess how TIF takes away from other areas. Cities arent
priority. Towns are needed! Can offer great ideas!
- Impact fees, revise zoning standards, school boundary
changes, service agreements, measure residential development to commercial development.
- Developers pay for some of the expenses they will bring on
the area roadway and services.
- Study costs local volunteer committee to check records
regional studies exist ask for more state taxes UW long range inquiries try to create
interest in topic; impact fees?; transportation, e.g. rural commuters costs on urban
roads are cultural impacts recoverable?
- After analysis, the actual costs need to be paid for by the
developer. The problem is the incremental costs are difficult to analyze. For example, a
community might need a new additional fire truck after 500 new residential houses, but
home #500 is only 1/500th responsible. The rest of the costs need to be analyzed and tried
to be assigned. A potential solution is a cooperative agreement that includes revenue
sharing.
- Problem of 35 acre landowner builds to suit self without
concern for the plan committee, etc.
- Impact fee, not develop.
- Developers need to pay for the impact of urbanizing on rural
lands. Conversely, they should be rewarded for infill development. Various governmental
bodies need to have a say in how and where development happens.
- Costs = death of our children; cost = money; development =
progress.
- Development cost, long-term cost.
- Payment includes loss of environment. Tradeoffs transfer of
development rights, fees, developers, taxpayer.
- Initial costs paid by developer; subsequent costs by
taxpayers.
- Shared costs property owner, developer, municipality (those
that benefit from what part); they should be quantified, identified as to who benefits and
part of developmental plan. Big part.
- Initial cost first user; continuing costs public funds.
- Impact fees on developers on a slide-up scale based on
analysis of property tax impact statement. Internalize externalities; attempt to place a
dollar value on more esoteric values loss of greenspace or natural habitat, impact on
waterways or clean air.
- Only to the extent that they can be directly associated with
development projects, they should be incorporated in ?
b)The Economics of
Land Development
Individual
"Your Ideas for Smart Growth" Worksheets
If you were County Executive for a day, what ten things
would you do to achieve sound, economical growth in Dane County?
- Establish a clearinghouse to crunch economic development
costs and supply data to local levels of government for their decision-making process.
Encourage local levels of government to be educated in this information. Establish
criteria to quantify costs. Encourage developers to understand the land use needs in the
county and share the costs. Continue to encourage intergovernmental working relationships.
- Coordinate with other government agencies on land use
development issues federal and state. Require environmental impact statement from
developer. Urge development to be consistent with strategic regional planning. Respect
local landowner needs and wishes. Require optimum retention of productive ag land.
- Educate public to complexity of issue. Show long-term
effects. Discuss expectations and their effects.
- What we do on do not do today, what will be the cost to the
next generations, for open space, to maintain roads, waterways and to restore what may be
lost.
- Push for population control. Reduce uses of resources. Build
smaller houses. Build houses on smaller lots. Compost all discarded food. Ban herbicides
and pesticides. Ban sink garbage disposals. No growth is real growth.
- Develop transportation corridors along which urbanization
must occur. Charge developers impact fees based on the larger impact or savings of the
proposed development. Create models of efficient development and use these to change
zoning and taxing districts. Find ways to value environmental and quality of life factors
against clearer economic impacts of development. Integrate commercial and manufacturing
areas with housing to create local resources for those who live here. Work to create
tracts of land devoted to farming and environmental protection use natural areas as
buffers between housing and farming.
- Determine what development cost for services are so villages
and towns have some. Basis to review impact of development. Preserve greenspace.
- Leadership must be provided at county level to deal with the
problems associated with 35 acres especially as viewed as a right of landowner to build as
he suits. More organization of town governments so there is less conflict. Many city
dwellers believe no control of land use is being done when in fact it is done.
- Require communities and neighboring jurisdictions to enter
into cooperative boundary agreements to keep communities from competing with one another.
Make school district and large city boundaries coterminous. Change state aid formulas to
reflect the actual number of special needs population and have the aid formulas reflect
this. Locate workplaces, housing, shopping and schools in close proximity to facilitate
fewer auto trips. Develop a commuter rail system with the appropriate attention paid to
compact, good design along corridor. Allow communities (incorporated municipalities) to
have an income tax to recover costs to the community providing employment.
- Quantify clearly the costs of all the types of development
impacts. Publicize first statement. Work to clarify/simplify cross jurisdictional
boundaries of various taxing bodies.
- Establish a "balanced scorecard" for growth. Let
citizens clarify/outline references.
- Approach developing a county land use plan through a
grassroots input procedure, i.e., alot of towns and interest groups and consolidate these
ideas. Continue meeting which allows different interests to understand each other.
- Look at all ways it will affect the county. Meet and listen
to local boards ideas. Consider the affects it will have on the local community.
Will it create bigger problems or less? What affect will it have on school district?
- Provide assistance rather than mandates to communities in
need of analytical expertise. Facilitate in establishing local community standards.
Stimulate commercial development zones with communities where growth is most desirable.
- Provide more affordable housing in Madison (purchase of
homes) in Madison and in the communities of Dane County for everyone and for me. I would
"buildup" instead of outward more office buildings and community services.
(Meaning up in the air towards the sky to have more land available for other things. To
conserve our land use). I would "downsize" all and every department in county
government not just one. I would add more employees to the Sheriffs Department to
help curb crime and also to the judicial department in Dane County and DAs office. I
would build a juvenile detention center out of Madison instead of having it in the Dane
County courthouse. Put it in rural area. I would do more to preserve our natural
resources, woodlands, farmlands and water resources. More jobs fairly distributed to all
residents of Dane County (need improvement in Dane County personnel which we will need
forever!. Would like to bring back the Public Intervenors Office. Feel it is still
needed. More projects and community involvement for our teens and juveniles to help them
stay out of trouble. More jobs and help for middle aged (women) and men who have been
downsized out of previous jobs and have to reenter workforce in other jobs and areas. More
jobs and hired employment for the DAs office and courthouse and Sheriffs
Department.
- Try to make the cities more attractive to families so they
dont want to leave city. Let the local town and village boards have more control in
development. These local boards understand more what is good for towns or villages. They
also can be voted in or out of office. As it stands now, we cant vote out the ZNR
Committee that makes decisions for us out in the rural areas.
- Seek to target development to areas that can handle it in
terms of public services, natural resources, capacity (sewer, water, other
infrastructure). Encourage communities to assess comprehensive costs of development and
use this information to make better land use decisions. Require developers to pay portion
of cost necessary to build new schools. Explore ideas like greenbelts around major cities
(Madison) where development cannot occur to prevent sprawl from one end of the county to
another. Encourage cooperation on boundary disputes. Offer incentives for communities to
enter into cooperative agreements which help counties think about where future growth
should be targeted.
- Compact development. Promote infill/slow the rate of
annexation. Historic character of older areas should be maintained somehow. Europe has
1000 year old sites but we bulldoze our 150 year old sites. Town governments should have
flexibility and control over own land use plans. Promote greenspace, but not at the
expense of the farmer who owns it. Environmentally sensitive areas should be protected.
Road safety should be addressed (maybe not a county issue).
- Look at financial impact, not only land use. Have city
government work with schools on impact. Discourage farmland development. Develop standards
for police/fire, etc., for costs/development. Help towns.
- Provide assistance to town governments so they can do
meaningful economic impact analysis. Develop mechanism for school governance units to play
a larger role in develop decision-making process why done by the municipal governing
units. Consider county subsidy of economic impacts of developing in rural areas. Subsidize
(aside from RPC) the existence of suitable experts to do economic impact analyses for the
local units of government. Get Madison to help subsidize the experts for the county since
county analysis is to the benefit of the city as well as vice versa. Continue to listen.
- Require all units of government to write a land use plan
that meets some basic county requirements. Without plans, sound economical growth will not
occur. If town plan doesnt meet county requirements, charge a financial penalty.
Delineate the specific areas of land use decision-making that are regional vs. individual
town decisions, i.e. citing of house on residentially zoned individual town. Establish a
model of economic analysis (cost-benefit) of development for towns to use. Provide a
listing of ways a town could be unknowingly subsidizing developments. Compile a listing of
all fees presently being charged in towns in Dane County in land use matters (driveway,
plat review, CSM review) (outside of county fees being charged). Establish a model of
impact fee ordinances towns could use to prevent financial subsidy to developers.
- Master plan. Impact fees. Park in the developer green area.
Surface water runoff. Public Service example fire, EMS, police. Schools "public"
location in new areas. Transportation public taxis, bus and rail to more areas. Develop
industrial park in areas.
- Better cooperation between various government bodies
country, city, township, villages (more intergovernmental agreements). Some consensus on
impact that make it practical to adopt a more simplified, less legislative statute. More
discussion groups around various governmental bodies to work out difference facilitated by
county (like we are doing today). An updated county zoning ordinance (not the existing 60
year old one) which address current land use issues while maintaining ability for
autonomous decision-making but those staffed adequately to act independent of county
zoning ordinance.
- Not much except continue to listen, since we currently have
good managed growth except in towns. Continue to limit growth in the non-urbanized areas.
Focus on providing county transportation networks. Work with the villages and cities to
change zoning ordinances to allow more creative and higher density development. Most do
not allow the higher density neighborhoods to allow implementation of the Vision 2020
objectives. Invest in long-term infrastructure in some areas to allow good managed growth
to take place. For example, help with the transportation networks build it right and they
will come, rather than always waiting for the development to do it on as needed basis.
- Center growth in existing urbanized areas, or contiguous to
existing urbanized areas, and focus growth on unused or wider utilized lands within
existing urbanized areas, and maintain agricultural lands and open space between urbanized
areas. Units of local government need to know their historic and current costs of
operations so they can serve as a basis for analyzing new growth. Personal real property
rights must be maintained, and if they (owners) are abridged, they need to be compensated
to some extent for "takings." Transportation for the future should not solely be
automobile-based.
- Balance: transportation, environment, industry, Recognition
of others needs. Have some meetings for input on ideas. Incorporate some of these
ideas into a major plan. Listen! What is economical? Define it!. Try to develop a plan for
better rural representation. Land use issues are unique small representation population
large representation impact. This is crazy, but we should have a two house system for
county government. What are we doing to surrounding counties?
- Use planning to achieve planning zoning is a poor method
since it relies on political boundaries. The RPCs main function should be to provide
support to towns, villages and cities to accommodate sound development. Since townships
basically enforce county zoning, the county must provide legal support for the decisions
made by town boards. Otherwise they are unable to make decisions due to the threat of
litigation. Since the County Boards authority is limited to activities in
unincorporated regions, more of the representation should come from those areas. To
achieve this, perhaps a 2tiered approach to county government should be development
(Senate vs. House of Representatives). In reference to using Planning to achieve planning
zoning is a poor method since it relies on political boundaries ag land should be
identified for use and not be limited to political boundaries an agricultural zone, would
then be comprised of portions of land consisting of land owned by individuals and crossing
parcel, section, town and even county lines.
- Balance need to development with want to
development/profitability. Make sure those with least can prosper too so that all prosper
in the end. Think long-term like you are going to live in Dane County forever think longer
than your term in office. Develop boundaries or guidelines to manage growth urban growth
boundaries. Model other places that have successfully managed growth (Montgomery County,
Maryland, for example). Land trusts.
- Enact policies to encourage higher density development in
central city. Encourage higher density housing in general limit "sprawlmarts".
Improve public transportation. Better bikeways, exclusive bike trails. Policies to promote
energy efficient housing and transportation. Solar housing development. Require greater
energy efficiency in all new construction.
- Hire more staff in Planning and Development to undertake
economic impact analyses of alternating development scenarios, among other things. Expand
use of GIS in land use planning at the county level. Expand land use planning and economic
development role of county, at least in an advisory capacity. Become active in state
politics to pursue acquiring more controls for municipalities to use in controlling
development, e.g. expand role of planning; expand impact fees; tap into UW academic
resources; better utilize this valuable resource. Continue expanding the integration of
land use and transportation planning, as begun in Vision 2020. Completely overhaul county
zoning ordinance: pursue alternative regulatory mechanisms (e.g. PDR/TDR), ex. A1 AG(EX)
not good for farmer and ineffective regulation. Subsidize transit to some extent as auto;
better coordinate __ and transportation.
- Identify evaluation mechanism (to identify/qualify) economic
impacts of development. Determine cost to carry outside evaluations and how these impact
evaluations would be paid for. Require that the economic impact technique selected, is
used for all future development proposals. Tie economic impact evaluation studies (EIES)
land use plans/land use planning. Work more closely with other levels of government and
private sector to assume that costs and benefits of development be shared equitably.
Solicit support (ideally volunteers) of University faculty and students to assist in EIES
(see above). Have periodic (every year or two) update land use workshop to review where we
are (progress, falling behind, etc.) building on this workshop series. Do sensitivity
analysis of any comparisons of Dane County with Portland, Oregon. (Not sure this
comparison is useful in many respects.)
- Maintain quality of life services. Quality of homes not
cheap construction materials. Localized business district commuting would be reduced
through bussing, car pools, rail, parking. Protect natural environment lakes, wetlands,
woods, farmland. Provide parks and green spaces for each area of development maybe every
100 acres. Cost analysis and impact studies before new land is developed how many homes
can support services? Make community attractive as incentives for people to life there and
stay parks, schools.
- Building and dealing with growth by requiring the new
community to blend and fit with older parts of the city. Allow property tax to stay at
this rate, if doing so will keep things at the good level they are at. Rebuild Capital
Square in order to prevent the sprawl that is the consequence of it eroding. Preserve
county parks, city parks, environmental conservation. Create zoning requirements that
prohibit a developer from just laying down a hundred houses require better planning.
Maintain, create more bike and pedestrian paths that will give people another option
besides buying and driving cars. Keep people involved with decision process encourage
involvement from community. Implement the Vision 2020.
- Do comprehensive state and countywide planning with
community involvement to direct growth into areas best suited for development. Encourage,
provide incentives for compact growth. Improve public transportation buses that run later,
expand weekend service. Provide neighborhood retail, including and especially grocery
stores (this will be a challenge with the trend toward large stores). Stop subsidizing the
automobile! This will have people clamoring for compact growth! Recognize that many
effects of growth cannot be quantified what is the "cost" of one case of asthma
or lung cancer caused by increased air pollution caused by increased commuting? Also
recognize our impact on environment and animals cannot really be quantified. Does our
ability to plunder it give us the right? Make cities more livable places so people will
not seek to escape to the country.
- Educate all citizens as to impacts of their decisions.
Illustrate specific, individual actions people can do/choose to mitigate some of the
impacts. Involved children in planning discussions so they will grow up with this
background. Ensure that affordable, quality housing is available in central urban areas.
Quantify and publicize fiscal impacts of rural, large lot developments. Continually remind
people of costs to society of their choices, without taking away the choices. Persuade,
cajole, provide incentives to local units of government to develop plans and enforce
regulations. Ensure quality of life choices for all citizens no matter what their income
levels.
- Implement RPCs Land Use and Transportation Plan
(Vision 2020). Implement North Ring Corridor Plan. Implement Water Quality Plan. Support
Token Creek Watershed Project. Support ABS Global "Windsor West" Project.
Balanced transportation roads, bicycle, pedestrian, rail. "Walkable
neighborhood" concept. RPC, County Planning consolidation. Agribusiness/UW business
and industrial growth. "The Wisconsin Idea" biotech. "Silicon Valley".
County planning assistance for local units of government to develop boundary agreements.
- See information from public. Work with town boards. Develop
plans with town boards to have rural zoning done on a local plan and control.
- Do just what you are doing today. Have developers pay entire
cost of development. No longer allow any more well and septic systems. Preserve our
rivers, lakes, parks, water and natural beauty. Develop a manual to help small communities
revitalize their downtowns. Preserve our farms.
- Develop a concrete plan and stick to it! Involve local
people that know the land well and communities to develop specific plans. Because people
look at land use plans and move to that area the plan must remain consistent. Publish
maps, etc. for easy use to allow people understand where uses are and go to them. Support
ag producers to maintain that economic component.
- Be sure to insist on more park space. Increase county park
employees. User fees kept to minimum so that everyone has access to recreation. Continue
using workshops to gain input.
- Create sound plan for growth in Dane County and provide
incentive for communities/townships, etc. to do the same. Remove policies, etc. which
effectively encourage sprawl. Permit development at higher density that allowed today.
- Modify public perception of the root causes of problems that
arent going to go away (over population, irresponsible lifestyles) through
education. Keep a solid knowledge base of demographic trends environmental impacts and
social/economic problems needs.
- Employ unbiased experts use University resources. As best as
you can, explain unpopular decisions to public and include them in dialog. Dont be
afraid to say no and stick to your guns. Try to remove sprawl incentives, i.e. increase
acreage requirements. Identify areas which shouldnt be developed. Require
communities to comply. Support agriculture and other industry bases.
- Help developers to provide affordable housing on smaller
lots. Help communities work together with Madison to manage growth. Develop innovate
subdivision regulations and develop standards that communities could adopt. Provide better
mass transit systems to outlying communities.
- Encourage revitalization of downtown Madison. Local
communities have more control and decision-making. Have an open-ended standard development
plan (aid) for all Dane County towns as a guidelines. Regarding rural development high
density (more houses on 35 acres instead of 1/35 acres.
- Create incentives for infill development over greenfield
development. Create public participation process in regional planning process and county
planning process. Redefine how economical cost/benefit analysis is done what costs
arent currently quantifiable. Create incentives for major job conditions to fit into
city/county plan, accessible by transit, infill with existing infrastructure.
- Permit higher density development as a permitted use. Use
the provision of infrastructure to encourage growth in desired areas. Allow use of new,
proven, alternative sewage treatment in unincorporated areas in path of development at
higher density. Develop mass transit along beltline, where the jobs and shopping are.
Eliminate parking meters in central city to encourage business to relocate there.
- Try to find out from developers what would lead to infill
development. Continue to encourage citizen involvement in land use decision making.
Encourage development of standardized impact assessment tools that local governments can
use.
- Keep downtown, Madison neighborhoods, and small cities/towns
strong and identifiable centers of activity. Develop an exchange program of community
leaders to keep a dialog on issues/information/expertise. Keep farming a viable activity
in Dane County use transfer of development rights, economic incentives. Promote businesses
that are less space-intensive (from home-service, etc.) Encourage more combined
septic/mini-treatment facilities for rural development that does occur. Promote ways of
more compact developments (tax easements, zoning changes, etc.) Keep more intense land use
areas (commercial/industrial) separate from less intense land uses (farm/open
space/environmental. Maintain/promote/preserve unique elements of the natural and manmade
landscape (historic neighborhoods and buildings top quality farmland natural areas).
Encourage economic development centers at transportation "nodes"/transfer
points.
- Work to implement a PDR program and a TDR program. This with
efforts to identify where growth should and should not occur, will provide landowners with
equity in Dane Countys overall development. Work with town boards and town
association to get them involved on the same page as others in Dane County. Try to get
their blessings as well as accommodate their concerns. Work to get regional transportation
and development plan accepted by municipal governments that pursues efficient growth,
transportation and land use that preserves rural areas farmland and natural areas between
the tillable fields, for farming, hunting, snow-mobiling, skiing, hiking, biking, etc.
Work with WDATCP and other state agencies to change laws that make these objectives
difficult, especially with respect to annexation implement items in state interagency
report on land use. Include in regional development plan incentives for balanced housing
include affordable housing in outlying communities as well as Madison.
- Kathleen, you are way better than me, just by your great
approach to the problem. Im glad I dont have your decisions to make. Go with
Dave Cieslewiczs points. Maybe set up a token (cheap) effort to get a new economic
framework such as joining a wider group of public government units working on it. This
wont help Dane County in next five years, but maybe in ten years. Emphasize and
budget for the county to provide the facilitators/expert advice needed by town-level
planners, etc. Emphasize countywide communication/listen on all the topics, plus help to
the towns to similarly establish and make use of town-wide communication/vision between
units. I dont know enough: do rural settlers pay for their own school
childrens transportation?
- See state legislation establishing regional government for
Dane County. Expand purchase of development rights. Buy and lease back farms. Build a
commuter rail system. Take strong measures to stop scattered single family homes and
subdivisions. Create a county plat map based on the geographic information systems to
establish what land is developable. Implement a transfer of development rights program to
spread the benefit of the development that occurs per previous idea. Keep up the good work
of educating the public on these issues. Focus on working with cities and villages they,
not the towns, are the real problem. Keep up the great work!
- Have regular county meeting out in the county (town and
cities) with residents and local governments (specific units) to update and information
and education meeting and discussions. Develop list of specialists that will meet with
local government and/or residents to discuss issues. Hold public debates (formal?) on key
issues and hold around the county. Promote communication between all levels of government
and between government and residents. Put peoples comments from these meetings on
the Internet. Create county hotline for comments/complaints or questions and email. Create
online discussions bulletin board on Internet. Study and report on resources that are
shared between county and Madison road and recreation use, jobs, spending (transportation)
economic, recreation, transportation. Develop good relationship with Madison and Madison
with towns and cities.
- Encourage cities, villages and towns to establish growth
boundaries and agreements. Address transportation with a lean toward mass transit, and
alternative transportation (walk, bike, ?). Work one on one with towns to establish good
planning "buy in planning". Educate public to change and issues, perhaps via low
power TV broadcast, newspaper, internet or? Establish hot line or web conference (list
serv., conf., news group or something) for countywide communication. Educate city, village
and town officials. Teach them the economic consequences of growth and true facts of taxes
(the cost, income loss side) $1/$1.06).
- Continue the dialogue these workshops have begun. Promote
communication, cooperation interaction between and among all types of residents. Separate
the short-term do-ables from long-term and set schedule to accomplish those first (good,
small successes in beginning will pay dividends when tackling the harder, more difficult
tasks). Look for/seek consensus, but retain your leadership role. Once you get everyone
rowing in the same direction you still are the one to point out that direction. The rail
system get it going.
- Survey every county household regarding opinions/feelings on
development/sprawl, density. Set moratorium on growth of USHs (CUSHs and
OUSAs). Develop tool to assess environmental cost of development loss of open space,
provision of services, aesthetic consequences, water quality. Facilitate transit. Define
where growth can occur within existing USA to . Increase population density requirements.
Implement program for buying development rights. Create a land bank to hold open spaces.
Go regional this is not about Madison and Dane County. Clone Dave Cieslewicz and hire him
in many places. Let the fresh air keep blowing through. Many, many thanks.
- Develop incentives for not developing certain l and to
provide land and wildlife preservation. Find a way to use existing rail system to develop
quality mass transportation countywide and lessen road/highway construction. Provide
townships with outside facilitators for planning meetings. Rework Vision 20/20. Attach
costs to environmental damage by developers and charge for it.
- Mass transportation. Good zoning ordinances. Good education
for whole population. Recreation programs, ice rinks, etc. Recognition of churches,
charitable donations. Equitable salaries in public segment. Free entertainment parks, zoo,
etc. Promotion of arts, summer programs, etc. Food and clothing centers.
- Update county zoning. Change or repeal Dane County exclusive
ag zoning to extend sewer and water without annexation.
- Cooperate with and support town government with their land
use enforcement. Create strong zoning enforcement on a county level. Interrupt the ongoing
planning process long enough to put a basic plan in place, then improve upon that with
details.
- Support local recommendations/decisions by town government.
Provide Internet for towns. Assist and provide land use plans in computer format as
strategy to kick-start land use plan development by towns. Require zoning changes for
CUPs in urban development areas (mineral extraction, asphalt rendering plants).
Provide urban service/limited urban services without annexation at a reasonable cost.
- Update the County zoning ordinance. Merge RPC and Dane
County Planning Department. Computerize all land information.
- Freeze all municipal boundaries in Dane County then give
towns zoning authority. Support changes in Ch. 91 Farmland Preservation. Support changes
in state annexation laws. Support town zoning control. Merger of RPC and DCP&D.
Support recreation of RPC to include other counties. Support a sound transportation plan.
Promote better economic development. Promote boundary agreements between municipalities
and towns. Support protection of farm economy.
- Create town zoning. Create shared urban service areas.
Explore alternatives to annexation. Spent more time discussing issues with people that
disagree with you than agree. Have all county information available via electronic info.
Try to represent the people you govern as opposed to only your own beliefs. Create term
limits for all elected officials. Try to create an environment where it is not the person
with the best attorney that wins.
- City planners consult with neighborhood on shaping a vision
for their community. County (or state) should provide assistance in planning for not only
developing but for preservation/restoration of natural communities. The County Parks
Department should be expanded to consult/assist ;must more with towns. A
conservation-housing fund for county (or state) should be created to support/encourage
model clustered development preservation projects. Light commuter rail. Get land use web
site accessible planning, development and conservation information to the public. Develop
programs that support/attract farmers in urbanizing towns (i.e. support CSAs,
regional food system markets, etc.). Research national models that legally protect rural
character (i.e. farmland) while empowering towns with local decision-making and removing
threat of annexation. Do they exist? Consolidate plans and agendas of all the various
planning groups and plans to that an individual can "find the rudders of the
ship."
- Provide accessible planning information for the public. Web
site with links to stats, codes, rules, RPC. Set up fund to purchase development rights
and to fund promising new farms with young owners. Promote change in state stats to expand
RPC to surrounding counties. Help surrounding counties understand the true costs of
development. Help everyone understand what a "town" is how it is different from
villages and cities. Promote statewide land use plan (framework).
- Challenge local TV stations to depict landuse issues in
greater depth (visual understanding of public is weak). Involve middle and high school
students in landuse discussions (long-term understanding is also weak). Repeat this
exercise regularly (at least every two years). Repeat Town of Dunn study (tax revenue vs.
service cost provided methodology sound for other types of Dane County communities.
Communicate issues continually in plain English. Subject and landuse procedures to
periodic review to ensure they remain effective and germane.
- Keep it simple. Concentrate on long-term issue
(study-analyze impact of use of natural resources). Develop broad guidelines and policies.
Strive for common understanding with local governments. Work for convergence and
consensus. Local authorities should have the ability to decide. Countys role should
be coordination and overall direction.
- Promote infill development within central core areas of
urban service areas. Prohibit development within 75 feet of any lake. Restrict development
in river and stream watershed areas. Prohibit development in wetlands. Light rail transit
initially from Milwaukee Street at East Washington Avenue to Hill Farms, extend to East
Town and West Town. Prohibit construction of any new four lane highways. Promote
pedestrian access throughout the county, including strict enforcement of speed limits.
Create bicycle transportation corridors for community and other transportation needs.
Treat bicycle facilities as transportation, not recreation facilities.
- Design an approval process that is fast and easy for those
developments that are consistent with Vision 2020 conclusions. Recognize and celebrate
developers and communities that are achieving sound economical growth. Clearly identify
areas where growth is desired. Encourage development in existing urban service areas. Be
heavy on incentives, less focused on penalties. Develop a set of measures that can be
communicated regularly to show process on Vision 2020.
- Allow towns and cities to target areas for development and
incorporate them in their land use plan. Streamline zoning rules for changes consistent
with current approved land use plans. Require approval within the zoning process for all
annexations. This is the area of the greatest conversion of ag land and has no review at
the county level.
c)
Promoting "Smart Growth"
Group
Flip Charts
Group 1:
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- (4) Modify zoning regulations to better accommodate mixed
use development.
- (3) (Financial) rewards for designs that have intensive land
use, but allow for open space.
- (2) Urban growth boundaries for Mad Metro expanded only by
countywide referendum.
- (3) Coordinate growth with all governmental units (including
school boards).
- (4) Make farming viable in Dane County and farmland will be
preserved.
- (0) Encourage senior farmers to donate land to county,
retaining use.
- (1) Plan open spaces to coordinate with neighboring
communities.
- (0) Promote good mix when we do grow.
- (3) Offer tax incentives to developers who meet community
goals for specific parcels.
- (4) Promote transit-oriented development (clusters @ transit
stops).
- (4) Encourage intensive redevelopment of Madison urban.
Retain rural open space between transit stops and limited access roads between
communities.
- (0) Park and green space dedication.
- (2) Coordinate industrial development with residential
development.
- (5) Encourage existing urban communities. Attract new growth
by renovating low use areas.
- (3) Encourage proper stormwater management with growth.
- (2) Transferable development rights.
- (2) State, county and city policies to direct enterprises
away from Madison and communities that could benefit from growth.
- (4) Encourage greater public involvement and control in
growth process.
- (1) Enough local control within townships to allow
development policies to fit.
- (3) More education and communication on smart growth special
projects, between communities, general concepts.
Disincentives to Discourage Development Inconsistent with
Smart Growth
- (9) Portion true costs of developments to developers (impact
fees). Transfer all up front costs to developer.
- (1) Make cost to develop farmland greater than other.
- (2) Resist threats to local village "character".
- (4) No further annexation by major urban (including Madison)
until all infill has occurred.
- (1) Establish restrictive planning and zoning ordinances.
- (1) Require more acreage for separation of residential lots
in rural areas.
- (3) Resist highway expansion contrary to "smart
growth".
- (1) Use fees to discourage low density development (sewer
connection, for example).
- (1) Limit some government services which are contrary to
community goals.
- (4) Establish balance in legal guidelines to determine key
decision makers participants in each development (regional control for regional issues vs.
Local control for local issues).
- (4) Selection of committee memberships to reflect community,
not just developers, etc.
- (1) Tone down emphasis on inevitability of growth (or growth
for growths sake).
- Discourage infrastructure development where inappropriate.
Group 2:
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- (4) Transfer of Development Rights (also purchase).
- (4) Designated growth zones that get tax credits based on
cost of services.
- (2) Countywide development, standards/rules to follow
- (3) Percentage of each development to low income and educate
about.
- (3) Incentives for landowner deed restrictions to protect
land (voluntarily).
- (0) Town ordinances in place that support the plans.
- (6) Government/developer partnership to make as easy as
possible to do the right thing.
- (2) Cities take care/clean out "brown fields".
- (0) Training for assessors to understand use dollar value.
- (3) Incentives to live closer to work.
- (3) "Smart growth" resources for smaller units of
government, e.g. census, ag info, etc.
- (2) Educate public about multifamily and mixed use
(proactively).
- (1) Incentives for onsite day care.
- (5) Intergovernmental coordination on land use, e.g.
cities/towns/villages.
- (3) Designate transportation corridors.
- (3) Reward developers for using urban services.
- (4) Assistance to improve farm profitability.
- Encourage cluster development in rural areas.
- Have planned unit development as a rural concept.
Disincentives to Discourage Development Inconsistent with
Smart Growth
- (7) Require independent tax impact studies and base impact
fees on those studies in areas not designated for growth.
- (7) Higher cost for developer in non-transit corridor area
for transportation impact.
- (4) Use zoning authority to restrict development in certain
areas.
- (1) Tax on splits of ag land.
- (3) Discourage scattered development in rural areas.
- (4) Tolls, fuel taxes, traffic control efforts to limit
traffic in areas where dont want it.
- (2) Create buffer between ag land and development as part of
development.
- (5) Environmental impact fees.
- (1) Enforce strict urban growth boundaries.
If you were County Executive, what Ten things would you do
to Achieve Sound, Economical Growth?
- (4) Define specific areas that are development areas (which
are enforceable).
- (4) Make certain all county ordinances support smart growth.
- (3) Prepare with cities growth in transit areas.
- (4) Enforce town compliance with smart growth.
- 1) Funds to encourage village center growth.
- (1) Get state legislation to enable countywide transfer of
development.
- (3) Identify goals that the entire body politic can move
toward = consensus building.
- (1) Make certain needs of lowincome are not forgotten.
- (3) Restructure tax fees to support smart growth.
- (1) Define how fits into 2020.
- (5) Support farmers to farm.
- (5) Improve accessibility of county services to other units
of government, especially impact studies consultant, individually and developers.
Group 3:
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- (7) Buying development rights from farmer and leaving as
farm.
- (1) Reasonable taxes strategy.
- (1) Subsidizing farmland.
- (2) Encourage local farm markets.
- (4) Strong town land use plans.
- (2) Target/prioritize public investments including
infrastructure services to development and redevelopment areas.
- (3) Revise all zoning laws to allow more flexibility, e.g.,
traditional neighbor.
- (4) Designate green corridors between communities.
- (3) Develop a transfer of development rights/density units.
- Create detail neighborhood plans to id desired development
and speed the permit process.
- (4) County/region-wide planning.
- (3) Education effort that compares the true cost of rural
vs. urban living.
- Excellent natural environment. 13a) Support business
development along transportation corridors.
- Consider effects of transportation.
- (6) Develop efficient transportation corridors with good
service to direct growth.
- (1) Invest in services to enhance urban living.
- (2) Expansion of environmental impact statements specific to
a towns character.
- Enhance the attractiveness of Madison Metropolitan School
District.
- (3) Provide regulatory flexibility.
- (3) Provide density bonuses for public, e.g. parks, school
sites.
Disincentives to Discourage Development Inconsistent with
Smart Growth
- (6) Town land use rules that prevent development not
consistent with smart development.
- (4) Require consistency between municipal plans and
ordinances.
- (6) Reduce taxes in nondeveloped areas with a recapture
feature.
- (5) Towns that want to urbanize should pay for their own
services.
- (4) Implementation of land division ordinances to prevent
split of farmland.
- (6) Charge fees in relation to the cost of development
(impact fees) to the community.
- (6) Limit road development to make commuting more difficult.
- Existence of a hostile environment, e.g. landfills.
- (3) Identify future urban areas and prohibit rural
development there.
- (11) Present economic data on the impacts of development
(publish).
- (1) Continue farmland preservation program.
- (4) No public investment for infrastructure in nondeveloped
areas (no streets, roads, etc.)
- (4) Require large developments to have sewer and water
hookups.
Group 4:
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- Quicker approval process.
- (8) Purchase of development rights.
- (3) Light rail.
- (2) Greenbelt laws.
- (4) Put where farmland is poor.
- (2) Legislation which requires local enabling agreement
plans which enable setting priority plans in local areas.
- (2) Maintain country flow where new homes are placed, etc.
- (4) Better township planning on a smaller scale.
- (4) Lower infrastructure costs in outlying areas as opposed
to what urban areas pay (builders). Standardized costs in subdivisions.
- (1) Good pr/rewards for "smart growth".
- (3) Give incentives for open space in clusters.
- (1) Tax breaks for renovating existing houses.
- (1) Dont require 35 acre purchase in country.
- Rent subsidies in high density areas, near transit.
- Tax breaks who use one limited energy.
- (4) Improved central city life.
- (3) Countywide affordable housing.
Disincentives to Discourage Development Inconsistent with
Smart Growth
- (4) Transfer real costs to users through fees.
- (4) Limit infrastructure development outside of concentrated
areas.
- Tighten zoning.
- Match taxes for renovating by taxing heavier new buildings.
- (5) Add density requirements to zoning.
- (7) Ordinances for land use plans.
- (4) Fees to drive car to center city.
- Tax houses using more energy.
- Tax larger yards more.
- Aquifer recharge areas be protected by legislation.
- (3) Farmers "right to farm" law.
- (5) Only land actually developed (housing) by farmers should
be taxed.
- (2) Review of all development proposals for adherence to
"smart growth".
- Tax by number of biological children
- (3) Better public understanding of real costs.
If you were County Executive, what Ten things would you do
to Achieve Sound, Economical Growth?
- Require all communities to have plans in accord with county
plan. Require communication among all communities ala Oregon model.
- Required information for prospective buyers.
- Use nonproductive land first.
- Evaluate land for best public use.
- Improve central city while preserving county.
- Dont be dependent on cars light rail or other
transportation forms.
Group 5:
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- Rules that promote density (encourage infill).
- (3) Buy development rights (cant just be town, must be
county-wise at least).
- Urban lots too expensive.
- (4) Transfer of development rights (but expensive).
- (1) Could be funded by bonding.
- (5) Wide range of housing options in each development.
- (2) Streamline approval processes.
- (5) Reinfill: density credits for developers.
- (5) Take into account more than sewer availability, e.g.
police, fire, snow, schools, roads (traffic), recreational.
- Sewer decisions on county basis.
- (4) Clarity around intergovernmental cooperation tax sharing
loss not complete e.g. over time particular service; development standards.
- (2) Need to address increased prices as development
restricted.
- Community land trust one way to restrain land costs.
However, is land off the tax roll? Possible answer: "user fee".
Disincentives to Discourage Development Inconsistent with
Smart Growth
- (4) Dont build roads into areas you dont want
developed.
- (5) Dont raise expectations about infrastructure, e.g.
roads, sewers; include fiscal considerations.
- (1) Higher marginal property taxes, e.g. progressive on
"great big house". (constitutional amendment needs we know).
- (6) Financial penalty if development outside planned area
and dollars go to one or "incentive" ideas.
- (5) Stricter regulation of d in highly sensitive areas
- (3) Tax land on basis of price offered for sale.
- Change development rights to 1 to 125 acres (in A1
Exclusive).
- Purchasers of 1.25 acre lots pay into fund to buy
development rights of neighboring land to keep in present use.
- Forbid nonsewered development
- (8) Document and make known the system-wide costs of
non-smart development.
If you were County Executive, what Ten things would you do
to Achieve Sound, Economical Growth?
- County Executive could "D10" (document and make
known the system-wide costs of non-smart development).
- Meet with city/village/town officials to encourage seeing
the wide impact of their "local" decisions (including Madison).
- Talk to citizens, as well as officials.
- Sponsor innovative pilot projects.
- County Executive needs to take leadership role on current
large development, e.g. 700 1,000 acres.
c) Promoting
"Smart Growth"
Individual "Incentives/Disincentives for Smart Growth"
Worksheets
Incentives to Encourage Smart Growth
- Put growth where the land is, not good farm land.
- Encourage people to live in towns unless they really have a
good reason for country living.
- If people do go to the country because of sewage problems,
they need at least two acres.
- People should not have to buy 35 acres. It is a waste of
land.
- State legislation enabling pay-back of ag or other rural
land use rates at time of development 1) land use requiring plans for municipalities and
governmental units to agree with neighboring plans ala Oregon; 2) protection of aquifer
recharge areas from both inundation and contamination; 3) protection of land between rail
and other mass transit stops from inappropriate development; 4) strengthen county and
regional government regarding private/public incentives land use to subsidize first (13
months) of rent in new transit oriented housing; 5) set priorities in local plans to give
1, 2, 3 areas for development; and 6) local goals for land use, e.g., elderly housing in
convenient areas
- Smaller land pieces per new house (59 or more per acre);
light rail or other public transportation.
- Smart land use plans using only wooded land, not farm land;
encourage country landscape control valleys, rolling hills...farms, new homes must flow
with this look.
- To make sure that growth is planned through so roads, parks,
sites are planned well such as building location. And preserve the scenic look of the
country. For example, one house every 35 acres does that mean only one house on that 35
acres or does it mean 100 houses on that 35 acres? Townships in Dane County should update
land use plans every two years.
- Purchase of Development Rights; "Green Belt" laws
every town or city must have a broad green belt around it, with no new building in it;
build light rail with Madison as a hub; give tax breaks to people renovating existing
housing; give tax breaks to housing units which will use less than an appointed amount of
polluting energy to run, because of small size or good technology, e.g. solar; give tax
breaks to high density development like Middleton Hills if any will set aside open lands
(legally, with PDR for example); standardize infrastructure costs throughout the country
so that developers have to pay for it all.
- Increase budget allocations (county and OSUA areas) for
parks and open space acquisition.
- Incentives to use public transit expand alternatives to car;
PDR; preserve environmental corridors by purchase, etc.; provide planning and zoning
assistance to cities and villages in county; require open space preservation and closer
development for new developments; tax farmland as farmland not as potential housing
(higher taxes) can face farmers to sell, otherwise); change zoning to encourage more
compact development (narrower streets, smaller lots, get ride of variances for additions
to older neighborhoods, get rid of incentives to move to suburbs); require affordable
housing countywide (to counter perception/reality that "low income" housing in
central city is something to flee).
- Note: need to define incentive and disincentive people in
group talked all over the board. Advice for County Executive: Balance improve central city
and promote smart growth; Mandate planning and communication by all municipalities with
regional plan as umbrella; dont be afraid of using disincentives. PDR cluster
development regionally; TDR; tax breaks for renovation; quicker approval process if you
meet criteria for smart growth; good publicity for smart growth promoters press, awards;
public transportation; green belt; save good land channel growth when farming is not good;
state erasing legislation that requires local plans to agree with one another and with
regional plan; require plans for all municipalities!; improve central city life; tax
breaks for affordable housing in outlying urban service areas.
- Transportation planning develop efficient transportation
corridors with good service to direct growth; require information sheets to be given to
new homeowners (others?) that compare costs of living in various locations (city center,
rural, suburb...); encourage local farm markets; change city/village zoning to allow
traditional neighborhood developments; promote Main Street programs.
- Strong town land use plans; transfer of density units;
environmental impact statements specific to farming industry.
- Educate public; development rights.
- Subsidize farming; PDR; subsidize redevelopment or urban
areas; limit road development make commuting harder.
- Designate green corridors to segregate municipalities PDR
establish parks/trails in corridor; develop TDR program; zoning decisions to foster
cluster development; support and nurture business development along corridors serviced by
mass transit; encourage local farm market; invest in infrastructure to services to enhance
urban living; make MMSD more local control.
- County and cities should prioritize public investment in
areas targeted for (re)development; prepare detailed neighborhood plans to identify
desired development and speed process of permitting for projects; ID, zoning and other
regulatory barriers and eliminate; fast track permitting for smart growth projects;
develop fund to use for coop rent "high risk" development (use for research,
planning, infrastructure).
- Good infrastructure roads, school, government; excellent
natural environment.
- Buying development rights on farm land; assessing farm land
for its use and not its development value.
- Require land use patterns that require future development in
separated communities of moderate scale along mass transit lines; build limited access
roads between the countys communities; city, county and state should adopt policies
directing enterprises away from large metropolitan areas and to communities that can
benefit from growth.
- Provide financial (tax?) incentives to developers/landlords
to provide housing for low income families; require developers of apartment
complexes/multifamily housing to have a certain percentage of units for low income
families; provide financial incentives for employers to offer onsite daycare (which will
decrease the need for travel/transportation).
- Reward development of multifamily housing that is included
in single family development; mixed income housing development could be encouraged by
rewarding nonprofit partnerships with any development; land trust.
- "Realistic?" given fiscal realities; adequate
public input allowed; transfer existing development rights.
- Begin development rights (not at town level); reduce taxes
on farmland.
- Infill encouraging legislation; improved monetary support
for brownfield re-developments; density credits; land use based taxation; community owned
development rights for sensitive key parcels of development; modify transportation to
encourage growth.
- Infill line of corp. limits consistent with Master Plan; tax
breaks and incentives to encourage ag preservation; purchase of development rights; growth
areas should be channeled to areas which have infrastructure and urban service and sewer,
water, police and fire; just because sewer goes through it doesnt mean its best use
as you build it puts sewer next to more ag land; local control with the people who live in
the area control it accountable.
- Reduced costs, if any, in permitting process; accumulation
of incentive will fast track one action that might contrast to smart growth.
- Systems that are based on certainty and predictability;
reduce processing time and costs; provide good examples; reduce costs of holdings and
maintain in low density uses; provide opportunities to trade the benefits of developers
(TDR); tax benefits for environmental stewardship; opportunities to share real estate tax
revenue; legislative encouragement of intergovernmental agreements need legal
clarity/certainty; cleanup polluted land; T.I.F.; equity insurance.
- Offer tax incentives to developers whose projects fit into
the communitys goals for that land, e.g. affordable housing); transferable
development rights; improve and provide transportation alternatives.
- Rewarding land use design which uses land intensively, yet
with provisions of selected open space...as illustrated at previous section; encourage by
various measures intensive redevelopment of inner portion of City of Madison.
- Enactment of local policy to encourage desired growth tax
incentives, park/green space dedication, promotion of diverse housing opportunities, gain
public opinion on development direction; identify development goals through appropriate
master planning; coordination of growth with all units of government and adjacent
communities (including school boards).
- Need to save farmers this will save farmland; stress
industry growth together with corresponding residential; residential growth near
industrial; cluster rural development where density is rural save max land and better use.
- Things that will enhance a particular areas growth
such as needed residential, commercial and industrial, park space and industrial lands in
a city and town; good plans that will preserve the general character of an area that will
develop.
- Give each community a name to characterize its own special
unique "personality"; communicate information on community activities and local
business to invite neighboring citizens to participate; identify qualities that have made
existing communities attractive and use that to develop future growth; plan open space to
coordinate with neighboring communities; encourage existing communities to attract new
growth by renovating areas left vacant.
- Encourage seniors farmers the right to donate their property
to the county but to retain the right to live on it until death (name for that?);
development of light rail to connect small towns.
- Develop and implement checklists for approval process; PDR;
TDR; prepare guidelines to communities for updating their master plans; promote TOD/linear
development; modify zoning regulations to allow more flexibility with mixed use
neighborhood with less setback distances; tax credits to farmers for maintaining land
uses.
- TDR incentive laden; use value what is a farm; community
development initiative BUILD; tax impact statements; TIF/financial incentives for mixed
use, walkable neighborhoods.
- Transfer/purchase development rights; cities cleanup
downtown vacant lots w/ brownfields; provide multimodal transportation options; provide
zoning options menu instead of sterile code.
Disincentives to Discourage Development
Contrary to Smart Growth Concepts
- People should realize the inconvenience of country living
and not complain about this and that once they get there (in the country), smells, noises
and chemicals.
- Additional provisions to zoning regulations to add density
considerations, PLUS density/open space ratio requirements; regulatory or development fees
to pay the real costs of the institution and delivery of urban services.
- Preservation of wetlands and other; increased zoning.
- Land use plans that discourage over development of good farm
land; minimum/maximum acreage; only farm land actually developed be taxed; a land use plan
enforced countywide (uniform).
- To protect what we have if we develop farm land we
cant get it back.
- In order to discourage population increases, tax people
according their number of biological children a heavier tax kicking in after two children;
tax more heavily building new houses; tax heavily houses which will use more than the
approved amount of energy because of large size or wasteful technology; tax heavily less
dense developments, e.g. yards over 1/2 acre.
- Enact a countywide standard for all future subdivisions
equal to the City of Madisons standards, i.e., curb, gutters, sidewalks, park
contributions permitted on number of units of housing, etc.
- Shared revenue across county so no financial benefit to
moving to undeveloped land because land is cheaper; limit several extension/infrastructure
outside of concentrated development areas; public information about costs of services in
rural areas (current and what will occur when it urbanizes and service demands increase);
establish a fee for those who travel to work in the city and take advantages of services
yet dont pay taxes for these services; plans with ordinances to implement them
(tighten up zoning requirements); require plan concurrently.
- Urban growth boundary; transfer real lots to uses, i.e. for
road building, services, to use roads; design review; have people pay for the
"benefits" they accrue from development; dont extend services outside of
concentrated development areas; tax or have fees for plans built that are not connected to
services, i.e. own well/septic; tax people for more than two kids; fee to enter central
city with own vehicle; tighten up zoning; higher taxes for new housing; higher taxes for
inefficient housing; farmers right to farm bill.
- Impact fees.
- Strong land division ordinances to prevent split of farms
through topographical acreage, tillable acreage, possible financial disincentive.
- Dont create TIF districts in areas not suitable for
smart growth; reduce taxes on non-developed areas, recapture if use is changed; no public
assistance for infrastructure; require large developments to have sewer and water hookups;
impact fees.
- Charge fees for developments based on cost to community;
TDR/PDR.
- High taxes; no poor infrastructure; mega farming (hog farms,
chicken); hostile environment, etc. landfill; poor land use planning.
- At our township we have a 35 acre limit to build a house on
and only single family homes; raise taxes on farmers and they will want to sell all their
land.
- Do not expand CUSS boundaries until authorized by a
countywide referendum or at least by vote of the County Board; require more acreage as a
base for the separation of rural residential lots; Tone down the faddish emphasis on the
inevitability of great growth and growth for growths sake.
- Include more complete list of impacts when developments are
proposed so that the full costs of police, fire, street maintenance and even schools are
projected before developments are approved.
- Are we manipulating demand for new housing? by promotion? If
so, is this wise when demand is already high?; disincentive would be removing public funds
for promoting an area when demand to live (and/or move there) is already high.
- Higher tax rate on large house (marginal rate); change in
uniformity clause (constitution change).
- Modify transportation; dont allow unsewered
subdivision developments; dont build roads where not wanted; dont raise
expectations; forbid unsewered development.
- Sewers put in 1960s established growth area ideas of
1960s outdated in 1990s; town is or isnt urban or ag; limit roads; all
costs to developer; price of sale or asking price; taxing value.
- Extra fees and penalties for review and insure against
dubious projects; demonstrate adverse economic impact unsmart growth; penalties for poor
performing development; uncertainty and unpredictable of future services, access. etc.;
strict regulation of highly sensitive environmental areas; dont raise expectations
for future infrastructure.
- Portion the true costs of developments to the developers;
limit some government services to developments which are contrary to community goals;
higher taxes (assessments) for unproductive uses, e.g. parking lots.
- Placing maximum feasible portion of costs of infrastructure
development on developer; resist highway expansion contrary to smart growth objections.
- Establish restrictive planning ordinances, zoning; selection
of committee memberships reflecting community, not development interests; economic impact
statement on all new development.
- Continual annexations by Madison without infill; county has
little to say about Madison annexation; development rights.
- Bad feelings townships and cities; loss of good farmland in
a township and loss of potential expansion in a township; if a city expands too far into
the township area; bad zoning decisions; bad water quality to stormwater runoff; developer
to pay all costs such as sewer, water and utility, stormwater.
- Letting cities annex large blocks of land without setting up
rules ahead of time zoning until all infill; tolls to restrict access to small towns that
want to regain their own character.
- Increase sewer connection costs so that development is more
clustered and compact; restrict development of naturally sensitive sites; limit access
points to new expressways/arterials.
- RPC sewer extensions/USAs; require consistency with
adopted plans; impact fees for full expected direct/indirect (transportation)impacts.
- Charge more for sewer extensions, police services, etc. for
development; growth boundary; provide buffer between municipalities
c) Promoting "Smart Growth" - Urbanizing Towns
Group Flip Charts
Group 1:
Definition of urbanized town farmland near by; fast growing
= Middleton, Burke, Blooming Grove, Westport, Windsor, Town of Madison; first ring of
town; annexation candidates Dunn?
Question 1: What are the
special issues/needs facing urbanizing towns?
- Existing use that creates conflicts with planned use
quarries, rendering plant.
- Annexation.
- Economic fairness.
- Balance between residential and jobs being created.
- Pressure for selling adjacent farm land.
- Reaching vision consensus.
- Problems with zoning.
- Infrastructure cost of
- Lots of little pieces as city annexes land.
- Residential involvement in planning process.
- Access to water and sewer.
- Decreasing quality of life.
- Town controls development rather than development
controlling town.
- Transportation needs.
- Ability to enforce plan.
- Annexation along section lines.
- Aging farmers
- Farming in urban-zoned area loss of farmers
Question 2 : What can be
done to help urbanize towns effectively respond to these special issues and needs?
- More clustered development town included in town plan.
- (1) Update county zoning ordinance to report current needs
and happenings.
- (2) Tech expertise is available for development, but is not
available for protection and preservation; focus now is on built, not unbuilt; acment (?)
services provided by county Parks Department.
- (4) Long-term issue need for enforcement of land use
planning county or statewide.
- (5) Explore shared urban services as opposed to annexation.
- (1) County needs to back up local government.
- (2) Town zoning take over from county equal to city and
villages.
- (2) Provide superfund for landowner compensation for
preservation and future work.
- (1) If towns are annexed, cities should provide some sort of
compensation for tax base lost?
- (2)Update state septic code so we can have greater density.
- Urbanizing towns need forum to share ideas, cost-sharing.
- (1) Promote changes in state statutes.
- Meshing agendas, integrating ideas, land use web site, one
document to blend all.
- Talk to those towns that are not urbanizing "it will
happen to you".
- (5) Dane to host Web and Email services to towns. List
services.
- 2020 bullets are good. How does one acquire this
information?
- (1) The fate land bank for annexation later (or will they
be); communities 50 years from now.
Question 3: Are a
Different Set of State, County Regulations and/or Procedures Required for Urban Towns as
Opposed to Rural Towns? Yes/No
- Yes agenda for state association destiny of towns:
"charter towns" laws; is bigger better.
- Northeast of California approach we will be on of the other
guess enforcement of the plans the difference.
- Charter towns could create a level playing field.
- Yes enforce land bank or communities 50 years from now model
see fate of towns.
- Yes when RPCs were created, living in vacuum; involve
surrounding counties.
- Yes change exclusive ag law to make lots smaller than 35
acres.
- Statewide framework for land use with flexibility.
- Review "CUPS" (conditional use permits) for A1A ag
properties; anxiety when "CUP" hits township; change these laws.
- Local zoning may take care of #8 review "Farmland
Preservation Law". Review Chapter 91.
- Vermont how land is taxed by those who live out of state.
- Superfund for development housing and conservation fund like
Vermont.
- Tie into urban service rather than annex, but pay their way.
- Pull all stuff gathered by the public at public expense put
on Web Site access at local library.
Top 3
- Yes enforce land bank or communities 50 years from now model
see fate of towns.
- Yes when RPCs were created, living in vacuum; involve
surrounding counties.
Question 4: Specific
Actions that the County Executive could do to encourage/achieve Sound, Economical Growth.
- Update Dane County Zoning Ordinances.
- Condense RPC into Dane County Planning unit.
- Provide accessible planning information for public.
- Support recreation of RPC into regional, not county planning
commission.
- (3) Support town government in land use enforcement.
- (1) Reduce "CUP" in light of residential urban
expansion.
- (2) Computerize land information system and make available
to public.
- Remove cities and villages from town plan decision.
- Help define the purpose and function of a "town".
- Provide funding source for land use initiatives.
- Provide resource for land use development plans.
- Support sound transportation planning as opposed to spending
$750,000 on 2020 Plan and not adopt.
- Seek state funding resources for land use.
Group 2:
Urbanizing Towns = Not Cities or Villages
Process of Urbanizing
Question 1: What are the
special issues/needs facing urbanizing towns?
- Control over zoning/development (water, schools).
- Threat of annexation.
- Cost of providing services.
- Maintenance community character.
- Saving downtown/create.
- Strengthen towns moratorium powers.
- Expertise: need for planning expertise vs. capacity.
- Contain growth within township.
- Piecemeal decisions/lack of cohesive vision.
- County zoning too rigid (flexibility to address needs).
- Maintain viable farmland base.
- Preserve environmental resources.
- Keep/create greenspace.
- Impact of expanded transportation (highways).
- Development to need attract development to adapt to
development givens (perceived); expectations of landowners to sell develop.
- Promotion of manufacturing to shift to non-farm tax base.
- Keep light manufacturing close or within to urban (contain).
- Bedroom: jobs.
- MG Transition housing.
- Maximum economic value of property.
- Sense of community.
- Balance of government powers (government: government)
- Grow up vs. (low to med.).
- Coordinate transit planning.
Question 2: What can be
done to help urbanizing towns effectively respond to these special issues/needs?
- Community development leadership training/education on
development issues.
- Forum for intergovernmental meetings address issues that cut
across community (light rail).
- Citizens and leadership get comfortable with joint planning
(intra-county) (increase capacity, increase consensus)
- visioning charettes (see Lou)
- prob. ID charettes (2,1)
- Vote carefully know candidates!
- "Attitude" large supports small to make own
decisions (coordinate vs. impose).
- Provide developmental impact statements.
- Provide zoning flexibility by planned unit development or
special purpose district.
- Division of accountability/decision-making county = broad
parameters/criteria; towns = specific plans that meet criteria.
- Broad agenda/goal setting with government to government
involvement.
- Local government empowerment (3,9).
- Create industrial parks.
- Create templates/legal tools for planning new mechanisms
moratorium "tool kit" county creates for local governments.
- Local government nom. areas for development within required
framework.
- Create county benchmarks (snapshots for development), air
quality, population density, road surf, from which to plan.
Question 3: Are a
different set of state/county regulations and/or procedures required for urban towns as
opposed to rural towns? If yes, what should they be? If not, why not?
- No, same regulations for all to encourage good development.
- Flow charge, not double standards.
- Central Dane County towns meet together "ring of
fire".
- Not different regulations, but different procedures
(practices) of meeting together.
- Concentric meetings/planning.
c) Promoting
"Smart Growth" - Urbanizing Towns
Individual Worksheets
Question 1: What are the
special issues/needs facing urbanizing towns?
- Reduced tax base; fractured and separated
"pieces"; less people to participate in governance; providing urban services in
a large area; "persuasive" developers override land use plans.
- Enforcement of town plans; consensus; annexation vs.
maintaining community integrity; infrastructure transportation; loss of farmers.
- Balancing tax base residential/commercial/industrial;
maintain character of town; following a comprehensive plan/as opposed to scattered
development.
- Annexation issues boundaries and shared services. Access to
water and sewer.
- Management of growth under the current zoning in the county.
Need for easier ways to get into Madison met. For sewer hookup if changes to the current
septic code are not improved. Annexation of land developed or not.
- Existing conflicting land use (e.g. quarry, 17 operation,
and other conditions use permits). Urban services, retiring farms with large land use
decisions to make, annexation by cities, increase use for residential uses, zone changes.
Wild animals (deer, skunks, etc.) coexist.
- Increased traffic loads: economic fairness zoning
restrictions/landownersland values; big city attitudes (cultural differences) create less
than harmony with government; annexation.
- Infrastructure roads, fire, police and emergency sewer.
Cities and villages should understand everyone doesnt want to live in cities. Cities
and villages should understand there is poor ag land and small parcels that should and
could be built on.
- 34 towns 25% = 8 towns i.e. Middleton, Sun Prairie, Cottage
Grove, Burke, Westport Resources available to those who live in the town, i.e. ability to
walk to or easily access commercial districts, water, electricity, sewage, schools, a
"sense of community" control over the development of these resources.
- Retaining community character. Maintaining quality of life.
Preserving environmental resources financial and balancing taxes and growth. Managing
transition housing development; key to quality in neighborhood.
- Annexation, legal cost, extension of sewer, water. Voice in
schools location, etc. Rezone. Unsewered subdivisions.
- Town services transportation building more roads/highways
land and wildlife preservation; loss of farmland; diversity within the town socioeconomic,
ethnic, age, etc. Boundary issues where towns meet with cities or villages.
- Creating community; providing services fire, sewer,
education; providing urban retail center; delineating growth boundaries; specifying
population density; recognizing/establishing relationship to metropolitan Madison;
visualizing and promoting aesthetic aspects of town and surrounding area; rules in
unsewered housing.
- Balance provision of "services" with growth.
Governance issues new resident needs with traditional needs of past. Tax base of support
for schools, police, etc. Community flavor, identity. Listening to "new"
requests/demands and long standing ones, i.e. farm families vs. folks who live there now
but work outside town itself.
- Transportation, service and costs, costs, annexation,
shopping, sense of community, parks recreation open space, runoff, change (accepting it,
addressing it), diversity, housing cost-mix-not here, safety.
- Inherent parochialism of decisions; lack of staff, expert
advice; inability to win fights with powerful developers; lack of cooperation from larger
units of government.
- Paying for the needed services; preserving open space. In
general, all first 6 of Dave Cieslewiczs 7 points.
- Discuss?? Pay for services that we use in Madison roads?,
recreation, ground runoff; discuss question goes both by study and report vs. uses both
ways. Threat of annexation by Town of Madison or connecting (from out. Developers playing
off between Madison or adjoining cities and towns. Transportation getting places and
traffic congestion and noise and air quality. Preserving farmland and open space.
Providing affordable housing. Communicating and cooperating with county and neighboring
municipalities and towns. Develop rights.
Question 2: What can be
done to help urbanizing towns effectively respond to these special issues/needs?
- Annexing cities provide buyout of tax base or provide
services to town.
- Tech assistance in consensus building farmland and public
open space preservation; designing livable communities with clustered development; augment
open space planning services provided by county.
- Possibly shared service agreements as opposed to annexation.
City shares urban service land remains in town.
- Update current county zoning ordinance. Update the land use
and zoning of all parcels in the county. Help in getting sewer hookups for new
developments, not always having to rely on septic systems.
- Support local government. Help/assist local towns in
preparing land use plans. Provide a super fund to acquire land from those who want to sell
to insure compatible land use purposes. Provide consistent information on the process of
land use planning and support. Provide Web and email.
- Does anything really have to be done? Keep government local?
Which parts? Balance of both.
- Developers and towns should use clustered development.
Developers should pay towns for infrastructure when starting to develop in
developers agreement.
- The need for towns to develop written growth and development
plans that satisfy the larger county goals but reflect individual character. Coordinated
transportation development plan including road/highway development and alternative
transportation.
- Attitude larger scale government bodies should be supportive
of local planning, coordinating and facilitating rather than overly constraining PROVIDE
EXPERTISE AND PLANNING SERVICES DOWNWARD.
- Cities to resolve the issue of jurisdiction. Better
communication and information among residents. Stay with land use plans specified. Educate
citizens on qualification needed to serve as public official.
- Incentives to not develop land in urban areas. Concentrate
housing. Encourage use of UW-Extension staff. Provide outside facilitators and planning
meetings. Decent mass transportation in Dane County like rail. Revisit annexation laws.
Provide a means of assessing true environmental costs.
- Town newsletter; county (regional) plan and agreement on
where growth can occur; town meetings; town-wide services ideas, wishes; town land use
plans: transportation; consistency in town/county zoning; county moratorium on growth of
USAs; higher density housing; community center/town hall with scheduled meeting
dates and topics; funding for purchase of development rights; rules on annexation.
- Town reawaken interest/involvement in town government.
Listening to the "new" and the "old" representation of real residents
and willingness to compromise not a winner takes all attitude. Focusing on what we hold in
common. Not what we differ on. Cost analysis of any new development related to full
(community) town benefit. Before commitment or groundbreaking a) required within proposal
of developer and b) town governing board power.
- Plan, plan, plan. Communicate, communicate, communicate.
Cooperate, accept, understand. Establish growth boundaries cities, villages and towns.
Play Simm City the game. Plan neighborhoods. Plan walkways. Plan for needs (shopping,
repair, commercial services, business).
- Development to be subject to regional guidelines: decide
what decisions local; intergovernmental agreements; a map of county showing where
development permitted, based on GIS; development rights: purchase and transfer programs;
public education on land use issues; make school districts part of planning process.
- Ideally, change/update the whole economic framework (the
"economics" that MBAs learn) to give a dollar value to things like the
supply of clean water, and open space, etc., etc., so that such things are automatically
considered in decision-making. But can anything be done at Dane County level? Let rural
"settlers" pay for all their services including transportation of their school
children, mail delivery, etc. (The US no longer needs to encourage rural settlement).
- To help these people. County can set up meeting with local
issues on a variety of specific issues both government meeting and meetings for residence
of area, i.e. town hall meetings breakfast and lunch meetings coffees, etc. Get local
papers to report on county topics and county send articles about county activities and
ideas for local papers to print. Hotline for people to call and express concerns. Local
and county listings of government who does what and who to call sent to residents. Regular
meetings between county and town representatives. Overcome towns objections of
county telling them what to do.
Question 3: Are a
different set of state/county regulations and/or procedures required for urban towns as
opposed to rural towns? If yes, what should they be? If no, why not?
- Can towns combine, i.e. remaining parts of towns be combined
with adjacent towns to maintain tax base and rural character? What are current rules?
State provide flexible but effective land use plan for the state, allowing local control
within a statewide framework. Tax rates different for out-of-state landowners. Change law
to allow more counties in RPC; need sensitivity to natural features in planning.
- Yes laws pertaining to urbanizing towns should either a)
keep land open for farmland with integrity and dense clustered healthy urban centers, i.e.
3 mile extraterritorial) or b) allow towns to maintain autonomy without threat of
annexation but they should not allow evolution into large lot suburb. Bottom line preserve
farmland and cluster development.
- Yes same status as cities and villages larger area for RPC.
- All groups should have the same agenda, such as 20/20, town
boards/planning commissions/county board, cities, DNR, RPC, etc. Annexation for urban
services.
- Yes recognize different needs. Regulations should
specifically put powers involving local issues into townships hands.
- Yes, state and county should freeze boundaries of cities and
villages to prevent annexation. Require cities and villages to be 95% filled, lots built
on, before any further annexation.
- Yes 1) Rural towns have greater need for support especially
expertise. No 2) Urban town EXPANSION has same issues as rural town expansion (also same
as city expansion into townships).
- Yes, because urban towns usually have a more dense
population than rural settings. Rural settings would be more inclined to be on very large
lots and septic and wells would be less costly and at the same time meeting needs
satisfactorily.
- Yes, but dont know what they should be. Yes, because
circumstances are different.
- Yes regulations on unsewered housing; regulations on
urbanization of burnt-out urban areas for reforestation of these; economic/environmental
cost of development of new land. No agreement for where growth goes housing options of
varying density.
- Yes 1) Zoning regulations/issues are different for rural
towns than urban towns a) rural = land runoff, water, ag issues primarily; b) urban
services provision for increasing population (i.e. schools, transportation, sewers, police
and protection); 2) Not a "one size fits all" for addressing towns and
resolution of those town issues; 3) Town makeup of residents would be quite different. No
of folks who live there and those who make living elsewhere.
- Yes! Many urban towns should be put on equal keel with
cities and towns in this type of area. (Give to towns or make all accountable to county.)
Perhaps rules should change for everyone in unique counties (or urban like counties) like
Dane. Urban towns are much like villages in their infancy. They need to be able to plan
without fear of annexation.
- Yes, both should be subject to regional guidelines. However,
different types of development should take place in urban towns denser.
- The regulations could be aimed toward urban towns say (or
toward rural towns), but should be generally written to apply to all, because regulations
inherently must apply to all. The procedures probably could not always be appropriate for
both urban and rural.
- Confusing question I am thinking of city vs. towns. No,
should have equal authority between them, especially on land annexation and land planning
control and address and provide for needs of each. Create task force or committee to
develop. Find out how to change state law if needs to be state involvement.

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